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I didn't avoid answering anything ML, I was watching my grandchildren this evening and they were a bit more important than dealing with your childish temper tantrums.  Just your response says that you are against same-sex marriage, but correct me if I'm wrong.  I'd actually like to be wrong in this instance :)

And RS, how would you like to be denied the choice of venues because you're a Christian?  Would that be okay?  A Minister cannot be forced to perform a religious ceremony against their beliefs and the venue has got nothing to do with the ceremony.  If a hall is for rent, there should be no discrimination.  If you think your place of business should be limited to your congregation, don't put it out there for lease, it's really that simple.  But if you're soliciting your venue for profit, you don't get to choose who rents it.  That's just being civil, which Christians, in particular, seem to have a problem with.  I wonder would your JWD.

Lets pull up our granny panties and face the truth, Christians are the leaders of discrimination (moral majority?). They have led the fight to discriminate against anyone who is different, don't believe what they believe or are just plain miserable. So what if they are gay, women, witches, Native American, black, yellow, red, Muslim, use drugs, are mentally ill, are retarded, the poor or just plain miserable people. It is their life, their faith, their color, why does it matter to you? And to suggest that JUST because Christians don't do it now or those weren't real Christians back then is just plain BS. Man it is all about love, you preach it - how loving God was/is/was never. Whatever. Yes, I know it wasn't only Christians who did these things and WE should also tell others they are discriminating, not led them - just like I am telling you. You are discriminating no matter the form of it, it still is wrong.

I thought at one time in my life Christianity was it - it was the end all be all. Then I watched as I mostly saw hypocrites, add that to history of how they treat other people and I quickly became discouraged/disenfranchised. Then I have watched in my lifetime what has happened and it is just repeating, over and over. No real lessons learned just blind following of the bible.

I just can't believe when 2 people are happy together - love each other, that people who preach love and forgiveness would have such a major hangup over gays marrying, so what, it isn't your life. If you believe they are going to hell so be it but let people be happy who love each other. Love, people, don't exclude them. Probably a high % of them are closet Christians.

ML, let me ask you this, if a gay couple came into your shop and wanted their car restored would you tell them to go away? Would you not take their money? Would you overcharge them? Would you get out your bible and start preaching to them? Or would you be a good business man and take good care of them in hopes they may tell their other friends what a great place you own? I will be waiting all night to read your responses. This is not a bait, it is a pull up your granny panties moment.

Bob, don't you also own a business? What would you do?

I am going to a gay wedding reception this weekend for a relative and I bet it will be a great time with plenty of love and happiness.

Love and peace.

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Ok for those of you who believe LGBT is a lifestyle choice.......

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it is no more a lifestyle choice then being heterosexual.  If you believe it is a lifestyle choice, when did you choose to be heterosexual?

Attraction to another is based in genetics.  All embryos start out female and then the signal from the SRY (sex determining portion of the Y chromosome which is passed to offspring by the father) signals the embryo, during the 2nd trimester, to start to masculinize the brain and body (by the way, also when most birth defects begin to manifest).  Pheromone attraction is a big part of what attracts you to another.  Ever wonder why some ignite a spark and others leave you unimpressed?  The process to masculinize happens in waves, not an on/off switch.  Who you are attracted to is part of the brain being masculinized or left feminine.  Also sex/gender is a continuum not either/or.

As for the bible, either you are as God created you and He makes no mistakes or the bible is man's interpretation of the word of God and vulnerable to biases of the writer and the times.  By the way I am Christian....

But it doesn't even matter if it IS a choice, so it's a strawman fallacy.  We are entitled to any choices we might make, as free American citizens.  As long as the rights of another are not being restricted, our choices are ours to make, whatever they may be.  One's rights end where another's rights begin, typically at the end of one's nose.  It's really nobody's business but those consenting adults that choose.  Same-sex marriage restricts no one's rights, it grants rights that never should have been denied.  Nature/nurture is a moot point.

http://www.reasonablefaith.org/a-christian-perspective-on-homosexuality

  John

^ "the" christian perspective or just a christain perspective of some individuals representing their personal interpretation of xianity?

For a change Gouda, I'm not even opening your link.  Christian interpretation should matter to Christians, please leave the rest of us out of it.  Thank you. 

^ true that, gouda and others here need to keep their smutty little minds out of consenting adult / citizens bedrooms.