Inspirational Scientific Discoveries! - Page 6

Shtal, here's your problem.  You are claiming things that cannot be tested, let alone proven.  Science never stops at the door of "I don't know", it keeps on searching for answers.  There may be some things that can't be known, ever.  If that's the case, fighting over what we think or believe to be true is an exercise in futility and can have no positive effect.  That's what you don't seem to understand and it's what is so frustrating about those who don't want to live their own beliefs, they want to force everyone else to live them too.   That's a problem Shtal, it's inhumane, it's cruel, it's immoral and it's just plain wrong.  If all of the supposed Christians in this world just lived their lives according to their own beliefs and gave the same courtesy to all others, there would be peace.  And this is not to excuse the Muslims or any other religion or "worldview", as you put it, to force theirs on others, some are better, some are worse.  I'd right now say that Islam is far worse, because their governments are ruled by their religions!!!!!  Do you see the difference Shtal, Gouda?  What both of you propose is to turn this country into the same thing, but Christian.  Do you see the violence?  Do you see the insanity?  Do you see the disregard for human life, for all life?  Do you not understand that this is what happens when government and religion become one?  Is that the kind of world you want to live in?  No, don't even answer that, I don't want to know, really.  All I know is that it is NOT the kind of world I want to live in, or fear for my grandchildren and theirs to live in.  I'd rather live in a world where there is true respect for others, without having to sell your soul to get it.  You live in your self-made prisons, but I'd rather be out smelling the flowers and looking at the sky, thank you very much!

The is no such thing as "pre-biotic soup". It gets real hard to take such inaccuracies seriously in these "exacting scientific" discussions when I have to correct such inventions of thought. I imagine the real concept description intended would be "primordial soup." Just makes one wonder what other gobbledygook science term is being pro-offered with such self-congratulatory authority.

"I'm good with having that conversation, but I honestly don't think you're interested. My reasons have to do with a Biblical perspective that your own worldview does not recognize, so it would seem pointless to go there. I will say that I would think that as a Christian who has studied the faith and scriptures, my view of what consitutes a Christian should be somewhat more accurate than those who dismiss that faith entirely."

GSDadmin, he's parroting the words of Sye, declining to discuss the Bible, which, of course, is contrary to what the Bible actually has to say on the matter :)  Are you surprised?  I'm not.

Actually, I think you both, Travels and Admin, have missed Carlin's POV, entirely. One needs to be able to separate faith from religion, to get closer to the idea. At least I think that is the idea. I think there is an objection to rituals that obscures an individuals understanding of a personal relationship with God, and that the Catholic Church has always had a hand in directing such group think, at its core.

At least that's what I get from it all. 
 

I wasn't addressing Carlin, I was addressing Shtal.  I put in the wrong quote.  Sorry Carlin, my mistake. 

I do understand where you're coming from Carlin, but I still stand by my post.  I have no problem with any of your beliefs, nor Shtal's, nor Gouda's, but none of it should be favored and none should ever be legislated.  Religion belongs in the private sector for a reason, and it's a good one.

carlin thanks for the kiekk link, most interesting, you ever read spinoza, what you think of his work on religion?

can somebody pm shtal and tell him he is making a mockery of religion with his psude-science rants that are simply not true and that his heroes like sye hovind etc have no respect at all amongst credible thinkers, they are con-men plain and simple, how embarrassing.

GSDtravels, here is interesting video! The speaker of the video is NOT Christian but it gives good scientific perspective relating to God...
Things he says about billions years and Big Bang that is not relative to my point or would I agree.
 

I've been wanting to say it for a while. You do realize we evolved to believe in God?

The idea that there is an author of that process is, in fact, as plausible as the theory of the process itself.

:)