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Vk4, when will you stop including my name in your remarks, just let it go. Or you want me to educate you; analyzing in depth the big bang and brake it down to you in elementary level that big bang is a horrible science.

shtal you only need say for me to stop mentioning or talking to you and i will respect yr wishes.

Burn it all down.....LOL

Moons,

I felt like I want to extrapolate this subject once and for all...lol...Some of the problems with the Big Bang theory, the problems are multiple; not only theoretical problems but actual scientific problems with this theory.
Number1. Where did the matter come from? What exploded? (Well they say nothing exploded) well then you don’t have explosion then you have nothing. You can’t even visualize what they are trying to say here, they kept getting that dot smaller and smaller till now is nothing that exploded; it’s simply doesn’t make sense. Where did the matter come from for the Big Bang? (Professors don’t know) Where did the laws come from? The entire universe is governed by laws. We have the law of gravity, centrifugal force, inertia, boil’s law, and gas laws. There are all kinds of laws that govern the universe. Also, you know we have Cole’s law. The main question: Why aren’t the laws are still evolving? Have you ever think about that? Why is the gravity always the same? The laws didn’t change, the laws are consistent. Now, if nothing exploded and made everything, not only it has to make matter for the universe, it has to make the laws, is gravity just built into matter? I mean how can you explain that? (Was gravity) Where was the gravity before the Big Bang? And if everything squeezes into the dot, what squeeze it in? (Well Gravity?) Well then the gravity was already their? Was the laws created by the Big Bang? It is serious problem. And where did the energy come from? You have to have matter and/or energy to create these. Big Bang produces big messes. Now, the text book would teach and this is correct if the Big Bang theory is true the initial object had to be spinning, well this creates the problem; it creates the problem if it wasn’t spinning and it creates a different problem if it was spinning, if it wasn’t spinning and it just exploded then how did all of the particles clear down to the atoms pick up the spin? If it was spinning then you have another Big problem because the law of conservation of angular momentum.  If you have central access that everything is coming out, it should be rotating in the same direction; maybe you can picture in your mind a spiral galaxy, if there was a single Big Bang explosion, we would expect heavenly bodies, to all be moving in the same direction, now would there be an occasion acceptation to that, maybe something bump into another cosmic-body, I would say absolutely…But bear in mind with our own solar system, we got Venus, Uranus and I believe also Pluto rotating backwards from the other planets, six out of sixty-three moons here in our own solar system they are going backwards, in fact Jupiter, Saturn and Neptune they have moons going in both directions; you wouldn’t expect that from the Big Bang explosion. Now how do evolutionists get around this scientific laws in order to propone there Big Bang theory, one of the atheist fellow wrote a book called “the age of infinity” and to give you his answer, he said the Big Bang represent instantaneous suspension of the physical laws, the sudden of broke flash alleles that allow something to come out of nothing, it represents a true miracle, I would ask the same question why it is more scientific vs. saying in the Beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
 

And here is part 2 on this subject to make a final point lol.
To remind about laws of thermodynamics, the first law of thermodynamics “Matter (and/or energy) cannot be created or destroyed by any known means…How can you “create” matter from nothing or create energy from nothing. So far no one had discover any possible to do that, which bring us obvious question – well then how did the universe get here? – It had to had the beginning and we know that matter is NOT eternal, it can’t last forever, it’s always breaking down; but this first law of thermodynamics is really powerful proof, matter cannot be created or destroyed…Somebody made this world, and that somebody would have to be outside of time, space and matter. Unrelated to them, unconnected to them, uninfluenced by them. Outside time, space and matter. Many people don't like Biblical answer; in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. It gives no explanation for where God came from…And if somebody asks where God did come from. And I would respond that your question assumes that he had to come from somewhere, does in it? What if he just always been, and even the word always you cannot really use that in describing God, because that implies time. Any words that imply time would be improper when you apply them to God…You know where does God lives?, well, just the where word implies that he has to have a particular location, he stuck in space. Time, space and matter, three things that we stuck in, but if God is limited by time, space, matter or anything else he is not God.

.....i just finished reading and now i am nauseous.... (and i am not joking)...i always had low tolerance for pointless stuff, but i never had a physical reaction to it....
...oh man, gotta go.....

Shtal,
I think you should thank VK4, for giving you an invitation, he has much to learn.

The big bang theory is simply wrong, grasping at straws.
Your interpretation of it is wrong, as wrong as a blind man in traffic, along with your demand that your god created everything.

In the grand scheme of things, who cares.
While your looking up the world is moving beneath your feet, if you don't pay attention your gonna get run over by a car, or a freight train more likely.

An Armageddon is coming, but not the one your looking for.
You might contemplate how and why, then maybe ask what can be done, what could I do to change this.

No matter where you think your going, or where you think you came from, the fact is your here, and you only get to do it once, so try to do it right.


Moons.





 

Moons wrote: Your interpretation of it is wrong, as wrong as a blind man in traffic, along with your demand that your god created everything.



With all do respect Moons, the way I look at things is completely different compare to your world view; in order to know anything, "me-myself-and-I" have to start with God. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, says in Colossians 2 (2-3), all the kind of wisdom and knowledge is in Christ, so the fact that I know things actually exposes that I know God does exist but you on the other hand my dear Moons suppressing the truth in unrighteousness says that in Romans. And if we come back to this subject again about definition of truth; the truth is what is corresponds to reality right? And also corresponds to your truth as well Moons.
But the question is how do you know it's real? You would say because it's keep working. Now in order to determine what's real you employ your senses, memory and reasoning, correct? And the answer is yes!
Now, how do you know your senses, memory and reasons are valid? You would say because it keeps working. And to refresh your memory Moons, remember I said that would it be fallacies to use your reasoning to prove your reasoning? (LOL, you didn't like that answer last time)
In order to determent if your reasons are functioning properly, you use your reasoning, but you are using your reasoning to prove your reasoning correct?
And so my dear Moons, you live in the world that you talk about truth and about knowledge and you have a world view that God is not necessary for all those things, you can call world view or whatever you like, but you have a world view in which you do not imply God to justify the truth and knowledge, my question to you since you do not do that, how can you know to be anything truth without him?
And my old example was a story about a reported who was hired to cover up the plane crash, and you went to this plane crash and saw survivors stumbling towards him and he saw survivors stumbling towards him and he asked survivor, how is it possible for you to survive and he said if I didn't I wouldn't be standing here, that's what you believe about truth, I am not asking what would happened if there was not truth, I am asking how you comfort truth? And you can't.

Sorry out of tolerance.

Shtal.

VK4,
I could kick your ass for getting him started again.

My dear shtal,
I guess you know I included you with gouda in my deal with the devil, he's gonna rot you from the inside out.

Your english and typing seem to be improving.
Now,  if you only had a brain.


 

moons where exactly did myself or anyone "invite" shtal's gibberish???

shtal don't worry about moons threat re the devil - there is no evidence at all for the devil, angels, demons or god, it is just a figment of moon's imagination., you are safe, what does not exist can not harm you.
shtal your rebuke of high-school science was outstanding, you sir are a genius, have you considered applying for work at CERN?

i do have a couple small details to ask tho if you don't minds (yes moons THAT was an invite).