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Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 31 October 2011 - 17:10

"Rome combined pagan to the new Christian faith to appease the general population."

So are you saying that those pagans were clairvoyant?  Isn't it more likely that Christianity simply borrowed most of its story from those earlier religions?

MAINLYMAX

by MAINLYMAX on 31 October 2011 - 18:10

 The Greeks spread paganism and it was the religion of
most of the Roman empire.
How a Carpenter from a small town in the Semitic area, ever became so
powerful to over throw the hearts and minds of the civilized
world is a question only you can answer to your liking.

MAINLYMAX

by MAINLYMAX on 31 October 2011 - 18:10


Lucifer, who might he be, or has been?
One man stands out above the rest of
people who hated Jesus with a passion....He may have even been
a woman. But his mother said she had a boy to place her daughter
on the throne of Rome....With the help of the doctor who delivered
this child. Seneca!

One of the most despicable manifestations of human flesh ever to disgrace this planet was Nero Claudius Caesar. Born in A.D. 37, Nero was educated at the feet of the philosopher Seneca (whom he eventually forced to commit suicide). Nero murdered his way to the imperial throne, which he occupied from A.D. 54-68. His life was characterized by debauchery, violence (he caused his own mother to be killed), and extravagance.

In A.D. 64, a terrible fire broke out in Rome. It was strongly believed that Nero deliberately torched the city in order to justify building a more splendid one. At any rate, the conflagration raged out of control for more than a week, substantially destroying about 70% of the area. As a consequence of this tragedy, and the widespread belief in Nero’s complicity, the emperor became the brunt of intense criticism. The ruler seized upon a plan. Due to the fact that Roman sentiment was hostile toward Christianity, the emperor would blame the followers of Jesus for this crime. Thus did he, and in A.D. 64, a fierce persecution was launched against the saints in Rome.

We do not know for certain how or when the cause of Christ was planted in Rome. Apparently it was not the result of apostolic mission efforts (cf. Rom. 1:11). It could be that some from Rome, converted on the day of Pentecost (cf. Acts 2:10), migrated back to their home city and established the church there. At any rate, this was the first real test of faith for the saints in the “eternal city.” The Vatican has recently disclosed they have the remains of Nero Caesar......Cloning would bring him back...very possible. Many theologians believe Nero was the anti Christ written about in
the Bible.

 




Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 31 October 2011 - 19:10

"The Greeks spread paganism and it was the religion of most of the Roman empire."

Why not simply admit that you have no explanation for those "pagan" religions to have been telling what you think is Jesus' story hundreds of years before he was supposed to have existed.  The only logical answer is that your religion, like those that preceded it, is nothing more than borrowed bits and pieces of stories that had been around for a long, long time.

MAINLYMAX

by MAINLYMAX on 01 November 2011 - 00:11

Jesus said "all those who came before me, were thieves and robbers".
That satisfies me.

You may be looking for a confession, rather than an explanation.
Sorry I have never confessed my sins to a priest and never
will.... Father Grossman.
There is no scripture that says me and Max are the way.
Jesus said I am the way.

Shtal

by Shtal on 01 November 2011 - 02:11

Moons,

LOL, you are very sharp as a snake and avoided the question. You reminded me very similar example from Bible: The story goes. And when he (Jesus) had come into the Temple, the chief priests and those in authority over the people came to him while he was teaching, and said, By what authority do you do these things? and who gave you this authority? And Jesus said to them in answer, I will put one question to you, and if you give me the answer, I will say by what authority I do these things. The baptism of John, where did it come from? from heaven or from men? And they were reasoning among themselves, saying, If we say, From heaven; he will say to us, Why then did you not have faith in him? But if we say, From men; we are in fear of the people, because all take John to be a prophet. And they made answer and said, We have no idea. Then he said to them, And I will not say to you by what authority I do these things. (Matthew21)




Edit: At least it gives better perspective and understanding that you are more leaning towards in my book of judgement of being a tare.

gouda

by gouda on 01 November 2011 - 03:11

Hey Keith     Why not apply for the high priest position

Christian church teams up with high priestess of Isis

October 31, 2011

WorldNetDaily.com reports: “A Protestant church in California is coming under fire from some Christians over its upcoming conference featuring ‘guided meditations’ by a high priestess of the pagan fertility goddess Isis.

The fifth annual ‘Faith and Feminism Conference’ taking place Nov. 11–13 is being hosted by the Ebenezer Lutheran Church in San Francisco, which bills itself as ‘herchurch.’

Among the scheduled participants is Loreon Vigne, high priestess of Isis Oasis – a temple, retreat and animal sanctuary Vigne founded in 1978 in Geyserville, Calif.

‘I personally see Isis as Mother Nature,’ Vigne told WND, ‘and that she encompasses everything with her wings. She's a winged goddess. She encompasses any other goddess from any culture.’

Vigne, who plans to bring several other priestesses to the conference, will conduct prayers, songs and meditation.

‘Guided meditation is where the audience closes their eyes and you take them on a little journey,’ she explained. ‘I've taken people to their past lives in Egypt, as [that culture] had all the secrets. They're the ones that knew. Their main concept is to know thyself, know thy heart, know thy soul and know thy purpose.’…” 

  You foolish foolish man.

      gouda

Shtal

by Shtal on 01 November 2011 - 05:11

Moons,


I' am done with you for the rest of time on such subject matters; have a wonderful time in this first life. (1 Corinthians 1:21) For because, by the purpose of God, the world, with all its wisdom, had not the knowledge of God, it was God's pleasure, by so foolish a thing as preaching, to give salvation to those who had faith in him.

 





From Shtal :-)

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 01 November 2011 - 12:11

" You foolish foolish man.

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 01 November 2011 - 15:11

Isis now,
oh how deep these waters run.


I hope you are done Shtal, get out of the water before you drown in it.

I know people who are true believers, you and gouda are not, you are frauds to yourselves and others.
Your are by your actions self serving and corrupt in your method.

You are the Nine.

Moons.





 


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