General Science Questions? - Page 4

vk4 wrote: science as just another religion

 

The root meaning of the word science means knowledge, I never, ever said knowledge is a religion. You always seem to have an agenda mixing poison or properly saying evolution with science.

BTW, you don't have any knowledge about the past, you weren't there....There is a big difference between historical science and observational science.

were you there when jesus was allegedly ressurected/crucified/born, where you there when god spoke the universe into existence, where you there when america was discovered, when abe lincoln was shot, when your mother was born.......

 

here is a big difference between science and dumb attempts of creationists to pretend to be doing science.

 

you really have not a single argument even worth refuting, the were you there argument is about the academic level of a 4 year old child.

 

anyhoo kids anyone want to venture a guess why it is so important and why the creationists are so desperate to frame atheism and science as just another religion.

VK4 wrote: here is a big difference between science and dumb attempts of creationists to pretend to be doing science.

You have another fallacy which is called fallacy of equivocation; equivocation is where you switch the meaning of the word in the middle of the argument.

 

VK4 wrote: anyhoo kids anyone want to venture a guess why it is so important and why the creationists are so desperate to frame atheism and science as just another religion.

You are wrong again! creationists do NOT call science religion, but antheism is consider as a religion, period.....

You see Vk4, in accepting evolution as a fact, how many biologists pause to reflect that science is built upon theories that have been proved by experiment to be correct, or remember that the theory of animal evolution has never been thus proved? Or in other words that in the broad scale that is absolutely true! We can’t see a family order class changing into another kind, limit variation with distinct family, species…we seeing that! Creation explains that, predicts that, but the big changes define Darwinian evolution and no experiment has ever proved that ever has or even could happen. The fact of evolution is the backbone of biology, and biology is thus in the peculiar position of being a science founded on an unproved theory…it’s NOT a fact…

And this is a good question that has to be asked in our text books; btw, is it a science or a faith? Belief in the theory of evolution is thus exactly parallel to belief in creation…both are concepts which believers know to be true but neither, up to the present, has been capable of proof. And neither will be in the ultimate scientific sense unless we can invent the time-machine and literary go back and observe what really happen? We can’t do that, therefore its circumstantial evidence. Well, what is that mean? That means we have to compare creation and evolution issues as scientific models rather then as scientific theories, okay!

A scientific theory is a theory that can be put to the test and proven true or false, you can’t do that in broad scale either creation or evolution, ultimately a matter of faith, they can be examine as scientific models, okay! A scientific model is simply conceptual framework that used to correlate and make predictions and correlate the evidence and the model that can correlate evidence with the least number of problems and contradictions and make predictions that fit the real world then that theory is most likely the correct one and that’s where you have to leave it. This theory makes more sense? The way the evidence with it, we therefore put our faith in that as being the most reasonable faith, that’s the best we can do in this area.    

Btw Vk4 I sincerely believe you are mentally sick man...I already suggested before to see a doctor. Being miserable old sick man like you are and lonely without having any family is not very entertaining. Out of my pity for you please go see a doctor.

I never yet heard of anyone who isn't  a creationist try to equate atheism with a 'religion';  the idea doesn't seem to

occur or appeal to normal people.   

ah where is the equivaction please bold it.

"Belief in the theory of evolution is thus exactly parallel to belief in creation…"

ah no, they are not parralel stop being a parasite and trying to lie and say evolution is anything like creationsim, evolution is science creation is ancient myths that have no evidence.

creation predicts nothing except nonsense, how did wombats get to australia again from somewhere in the middle east, conveniently didn't answer that last time  and how again did the millions of species just starting appearing and thousands of new species every week since the 6 000 years since the ark myth all over the world without anyone noticing.

and what is your evidence, a book about a tribal god written by bronze age goat hereders that think insects have 4 legs and 4 legged animals fly around and all the other nonsense which is wrong.

"how many biologists pause to reflect that science is built upon theories that have been proved by experiment to be correct"

all i hope

"A scientific theory is a theory that can be put to the test and proven true or false"

true, just like evolution has been proven true in every one of the thousands of experiments and mountains of fossils etc for the last 150 years and nobody has proved it wrong.

you can’t do that in broad scale either creation or evolution,

well you can with evolution and can't with god spaketh the universe into existence in two contradictory accounts in genesis 1 & 2, you have to switch your barin off to believe it cos you want to believe it

ultimately a matter of faith,

 

ultimately a matter of nonsense to beleive in a god you have no evidence for

creationists do NOT call science religion,

you do

but antheism is consider as a religion, period.....

and not stamp collecting is a hobby, only creationists and people that can't understand basic english are that gullible and deceitful, "what's antheism"?

 

 

 

 

 

Let's logically look at the facts... c'mon let's PLEASE do that.

If there is a God as described in the bible, all powerful, good, all knowing then:
- He allows people to be raped.
- He allows and creates things like the Ebola virus.
- He allows for babies to be born disabled.
- He allows for kids to die of cancer before they are five years old.
- He never NEVER speaks to anyone in a voice that is clearly not their own voice, telling them something they don't know.
- His book is FULL of contradictions like plants being created before the sun, which moves through the sky under the waters above.   
- An earthquake and Jesus resurrection isn't written about until over a generation later.
- God's book is FULL of people being ordered by God to put pregnant women and children to the SWORD
- God hits people with plagues.
- God allows Elijah to have a CONTEST to determine that Baal is false (because Baal acts exactly how God acts TODAY, all the priests of Baal are killed)
- There's no proof that heaven exists.
- There's no proof that Jesus rose from the dead.
- An "ALL GOOD" being wouldn't torture people for eternity for limited crimes with limited intellect.
- God is jealous, envious, hot tempered, kills babies to punish other leaders, and worse.
- Even Jesus slaughters a whole herd of pigs by driving demons into them.
- God saves Jesus by warning Mary about Herrod, but he doesn't save any of the other thousands of babies killed by Herrod.
- The Bible promises that prayer would work, and it never moves the needle one bit in any blind study.
- Christians do not get prayers answered or blessed any more than any other person, regardless of beliefs.
- The universe does not appear to be created to be friendly to life, and it's a billion billion times bigger than God would need if we were the point of it.
- The earth isn't flat and the sun doesn't revolve around it. (Bible says earth is "spread out" and sun and moon stood still in the sky)
- Talking SNAKES
- Talking DONKEYS
- WORLDWIDE FLOOD THAT NEVER HAPPENED
- Guy surviving in a FISH for 3 days!
- There's a low cash value placed on the price of a human being... it costs as much to buy a slave as it costs to pay a girl's father back if you rape her.

COME ON!   THIS IS ALL IN THE DAMN BIBLE!

I could go on for PAGES

COME ON!    "Facts"  What Facts?  There isn't a SINGLE FACT supporting that the Bible was written by a supernatural being.    All signs point to God being imaginary, and if he's real, he's the evil one.

Let's LOOK at those fking LOGICAL facts.   

Well Shtal, as you say evolution has never been "proven", well neither has creationism. 

The Bible is man's interpretation of God's word and I find it interesting the early writers of the Bible excluded gospels calling them noncanonical gospels because they included information that was different than the early Bible creators wanted.  Roman Catholics included more gospels than Protestants did, is one version more correct than the other?  The noncanonical gospels include the" The gospel of Peter, the gospel of Mary, the gospel of Thomas, to name a few.  Gospels were cherry picked in order to sell Christianity.  I am spiritual and believe in God but I also feel there is a lot we don't know.

Mindhunt, I'm not going to be discussing Bible in this thread since this thread is about "general science questions" 

 

But here is educational video I suggest for you to watch, I showed it many, many times before but perhaps you didn't see it, maybe you can learn something

Mindhunt,

Here is the NEW video, nobody on this forum has seeing yet