The sickness of voyeurism - Page 4

Ohhh and Romans 13: 3-4

LOL

YAY America !!!

In the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson, borrowing from Locke, wrote that "all men are created equal … and are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights … [including] life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Jefferson identified the freedom of thought as one of the inalienable rights when he said, "Almighty God has created the mind free, and manifested his supreme will that free it shall remain by making it altogether insusceptible of restraint." In Powell v. Pennsylvania, 127 U.S. 678, 8 S. Ct. 1257, 32 L. Ed. 253 (1888), the Supreme Court recognized the importance of the divine influence in early U.S. law, stating that the "right to pursue happiness is placed by the Declaration of Independence among the inalienable rights of man, not by the grace of emperors or kings, or by the force of legislative or constitutional enactments, but by the Creator."

A short clip on natural law from this Legal-Dictionary

I care nothing about gods or politicians, past or present.

Great words are meaningless unless put to practical use.

I give myself the right to protect myself, those around me, my homeland and property from any threat to those things that arises.

My natural law comes from instinct bred into me by the nature of those who came before me.

I need no mans permission to live free and have happiness, or to act to protect it.

I'd feel the same way no matter what country I was born in.

We have rights on written paper that validate most of my beliefs, time hasn't changed their purpose.

Until the special interests start trying to change and manipulate that purpose to their own ends.

"I need no mans permission to live free and have happiness, or to act to protect it. " 

Naturally! (lol)

And you have the freedom to choose or not to believe in God or other religious beliefs.

Which of course is why the U.S. Constitution was intended to limit the federal gov.

The states are supposed to be sovereign over the fed gov.

And citizens are supposed to be sovereign over gov - state and fed - they are our servants.

If you do a search for sovereign citizen these days you will find the fbi and cops labeling it a movement comprised of dangerous people.

But check these out. (just a few)


Here's a clip from the North Carolina constitution.

Section 1.  The equality and rights of persons.

We hold it to be self-evident that all persons are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, the enjoyment of the fruits of their own labor, and the pursuit of happiness.

Sec. 2.  Sovereignty of the people.

All political power is vested in and derived from the people; all government of right originates from the people, is founded upon their will only, and is instituted solely for the good of the whole.

Here's a clip from the Virginia constitution

DECLARATION OF RIGHTS made by the good people of Virginia in the exercise of their sovereign powers,
which rights do pertain to them and their posterity, as the basis and foundation of government.
Section 1. Equality and rights of men.
That all men are by nature equally free and independent and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they
enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of
life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and
safety.
Section 2. People the source of power.
That all power is vested in, and consequently derived from, the people, that magistrates are their trustees and
servants, and at all times amenable to them.




I didn't feel like touching on the right to bear arms at the moment.

What good are words if no one can back them up, enforce these principles?
How can you have freedom or justice if things are made secret?
Or helplessly dependant.

Bee started this thread about sealing records to spare grief, she believes this to be sound and correct.

It is neither sound nor correct in a free society.

unalienable not inalienable - big difference

BE,

Good catch.


http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html


UNALIENABLE  Incapable of being aliened, that is, sold and transferred.


http://adask.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/unalienable-vs-inalienable/
 
Lee

Well, what do you know. Facebook is removing the rogue and fake Sandy Hook tribute pages. Social media is developing a social conscience and shows some respect for dead.

 I really have to wonder what this country is coming to when there are people who do things like that. Anonimity give cowards a lot of courage.

Our government massacred hundreds of women & children, Americans, on our own soil back in the 1800s. Also their husbands & fathers, & did so before that time,  & continued until all resistance was gone from the Native American people.
Do I see parallels to today's sadnesses? Sure. Do I honestly think we live in the same danger of attack from our government? No.
Healthy debate makes a good citizenry, but some respect for others grief. & suffering needs to be maintained, & we don't need to tell these poor parents how to direct their grief. 
Neither do I feel Americans need automatic or semi-automatic assault weapons. 
jackie harris