survival of the fittest (based on evolution) - Page 3

no, there are no double posts in this thread!! but there were some in other threads...

Well if VK made one and then edited the second post how would you know? I will wait for VK and if he says that he didn't have any I will just start deleting posts until the sticky is gone.

I didn´t want to post in the "off topic" section any more, but you are talking about Hitler.
As much as I hate it, this guy is part of my German history, and I still try to understand WHY he was able to do what he did...
To believe that Hitler was a follower of Darwin, and all of his misdeeds were based on the evolution theory, is the same as believing that all the killing, raping, and mutilating crusaders were true followers of christianity.

"in the name of evolution" - "in the name of christianity" - the results sometimes are the same

Darwin believed in breeds, not in races. Contrary to Darwin Hitler believed in races, he was influenced by the 1. world war, by his own poverty, Germanic nature religions, Germanic sagas, the Romantik, and "social Darwinismus" ( Haeckel, not Darwin )

"Survival of the fittest" for Darwin was meant as biologically "fit" = most potent, and able to adjust,
for Hitler it was "powerful" = able to kill, able to spread out because of physical force

This is a very difficult theme, you shouldn´t try to simplify this more than dark phase of history.

Hitler believed that the human gene pool could be improved by using selective breeding similar to how farmers breed superior cattle strains. In the formulation of their racial policies, Hitler’s government relied heavily upon Darwinism, especially the elaborations by Spencer and Haeckel. As a result, a central policy of Hitler’s administration was the development and implementation of policies designed to protect the ‘superior race’. This required at the very least preventing the ‘inferior races’ from mixing with those judged superior, in order to reduce contamination of the latter’s gene pool. The ‘superior race’ belief was based on the theory of group inequality within each species, a major presumption and requirement of Darwin’s original ‘survival of the fittest’ theory. This philosophy culminated in the ‘final solution’, the extermination of approximately six million Jews and four million other people who belonged to what German scientists judged as ‘inferior races’.

Shtal, did you ever try to understand the differences between Darwin, Spencer, Haeckel, and some others?
You should study a theme, before you develop an opinion.

Besides that - a lot of damage was done " in the name of whatever " and still is done. The members of your religion are pretty good in killing " in the name of ", as are others worlwide.

That is not shtal opinion or his writing.

Darwin's book is not about human evolution.

Shtal is not interested in discussion, he is a brain washed clone.

Yeah, not going to get involved any longer.
There is no basis.

Susie, evolution is the foundation philosophy for Nazism; why did Hitler do what he did? It is foundation for Nazism, communism, socialism, marksizm and new world order.

What are effects on evolution theory? How evolution is responsible for the rise communism, marksizm, socialism. And I want to mention about Nazism since we have Adolf Hitler involved in this thread. Nazism is based on the philosophy of evolution; you would have to think one race is superior to another.

Mussolini the Italian Dictator was influenced by evolution philosophy. He thought the Italians were the superior race. And everybody else should be eliminated and of course Hitler felt the same way, he thought the German’s were the superior race. He believed in Aryan supremacy! Hitler believed the Germans were the superior race that deserved to rule the world; everyone else is just taking space in this world.

“The German Fuhrer & has consistently sought to make the practice of Germany conform to the theory of evolution.” (Evolution and Ethics 1947, Sir Arthur Keith p, 230)

And this fellow said a direct line runs from Darwin, through the father of eugenics movement-Darwin s cousin, Francis Galton- to the extermination camps of Nazi Europe. (Martin Brookes, Ripe old age, New Scientist 161(2171);41, 1999)

In Hitler’s book “Mein Kampf” You can read his racist philosophy, 1924. “Adolf Hitler’s mind was captivated by evolutionary thinking-probably since the time he was a boy. Evolutionary ideas…lie at the basis of all that is worst in Mein Kampf and in his public speeches. (Darwin, Before and After, Robert Clark, 1948, p, 115)

Hitler offer to send Jews anybody who would take them, he said you want this Jews I’ll will send them to you. And with my research Hitler offered to send the Jews to America and Roosevelt refused to let him, unbelievable what happened my dear readers - before WW2.

And in Hitler’s book Mein Kampf on page 286, he said even less does nature desire the blending of a higher with a lower race. Who is higher and lower race? Hitler kept talking Aryan blood and lower peoples; who is Aryan anyway? Well, I found Hitler’s hit list.

He though the Nordic (blond, blue eyed………Close to Pure Aryan, the superior race.

And he though the German’s we mostly Aryan. Germanic (brown hair, blue-eyed or, less desirable, brown-eyed…………Predominantly Aryan:



And Mediterranean……………Slightly Aryan:

Slavic were................................Close to half-Aryan, half-Ape:

Oriental were………………….Slight Ape preponderance:

Black Africans were……………Predominantly Ape:

And Jewish were……………….Close to pure Ape:

(The Hitler Movement p, 107)


Hitler killed the Jews because honestly thought he was speeding up the process of evolution by eliminating what he thought were inferior’s. If he would have killed all of the Jews, guess who would have been next?

Does anybody know where Olympics were held? 1936! Berlin Germany and does anybody knows who won the most Gold Medal’s? Jessie Owens Black-American athlete: Hitler was so angry; he said - it’s not fair to make my men to race against this animal.

There is a difference between those who look upon their fellows’ human beings as common creatures of a common creator and those who look upon them as a conglomerate of biologicals and chemicals. (Jewish Dr. Leo Alexander in, it can’t Happen here…Focus on the Family Aug. 1998 p, 12)

Is man is just a bunch of chemicals got together by chance over millions of years? Or we design by creator! That is the fundamental different(s) folks, that’s the different(s) between creation and evolution right their.

What does Hitler have to do with NATURAL SELECTION - NOTHING.

Genocide is evil
God commits genocide
God is evil.

 

God watched and did nothing while Hitler killed gods own people the Jews. God doesn't give a shit about people because god is evil.....and imaginary.

Your idiocy annoys me Shtal, because you have no understanding of the things you write. It's childish, misconstrued nonsense and you consume it and make a total ass of yourself. Evolution doesn't "kill" anything, generations pass on genetic information from one to the next and the offspring are not exacts copies of their parents, period. That, coupled with environmental changes, is the catalyst for changes in population and passing on genes that produce adults who can multiply.

Survival of the fittest has nothing to do with strength and nothing to do with killing anything, it can be as simple as having longer fingers to reach into a tree hole to be able to get insects during a drought or having a longer neck to be able to reach fruit in trees, when food normally eaten is, for some reason, scarce at any point in time. It's not ALWAYS mutations that are passed on, sometimes it's familial traits, such as skin color or eye color. You are grossly misinformed and your brain is arranged from information bias, 'cause the devil might git ya if you read anything that actually deals with reality.

If Hitler truly used evolution (which he didn't) to do the horrific things he did to his fellow human beings, that would be because, like you, he didn't understand it. That STILL WOULDN'T change the FACT that we have and still are evolving!

But then, I and many others have taken the time and energy to explain all of this on numerous occasions and it falls on deaf ears and is read by blinded eyes, so I'm sure I just wasted another 15 minutes trying once again to get it through your thick, biblical skull.