Obamacare sign up ... Where are the Latino's? - Page 3

A recent analysis by the management consulting firm McKinsey & Co. found that only a fraction of the biggest local hospitals in a given coverage area will accept Obamacare patients. An Associated Press study found that only four of the 19 cancer centers it surveyed would give Obamacare patients access to its cancer care through the new Obamacare exchanges in their states.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/23/opinion/mcconnell-obamacare-anniversary/

Better than having cancer and No hospital will treat you or they treat you and pass the cost on by charging 20.00 for a band-aid

Um, I stumbled upon this from reading Carlin's link!  All new to me! Now would be the time to, LOL! or    ! 

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/18e820ec3f/between-two-ferns-with-zach-galifianakis-president-barack-obama

GSD, Why are you SMH at me ? I  just want to be fair and didn't want you misunderstanding. 
 

No one should have to choose whether to pay for necessary medications or rent, no one should have to panic over how they are going to pay bills when their child gets sick. Something needs to be done. So many working poor are an ER visit away from being wiped out.

Doctors in Tyler area are not taking new patients and the minute you tell them no insurance, the for sure are not taking you  and other emergency rooms are so crowded the ones who have no insurance sit there for up to 17 hours sometimes...You could die before seen..

Unless it is an ambulance brought in or a blood on the floor and dying in arms  you Wait..
If you have medicaid , or a program issued by welfare , you do get seen and the bill is usually paid or approved before lots of treatment can happen...Medicaid pays for only the dire necessity at that time

then follow up with a doctor that will take medicaid...Very few and far between as just about all the doctors have a sign that went up last January, not taking medicaid or medicare patients
The government has never and cannot make a doctor take you as a patient..  Workmans comp is also another issue and doctors do not want a workmans comp patient..Some very few in a town do sign up for NEW workman comp cases , at low pay but if you are an old case needing care you have to go to the Medicaid route.

YR

Where to start.

Mindhunt,

Excellent post, you get it unfortunately plenty of others do not.

YR,

Whether an old case or new case a workers comp case is a workers comp case. Drs for years and years have not taken new patients because they already overbook patients to make as much as possible. Funny that when I have paid cash in the past they charge me more than they charge any insurance company, no insurance forms to fill out but they charge a cash patient more. All about the money and not the patient. I also have not heard of one Dr in this area getting out of medicine because of Obamacare.

Ruger,

Fair what? Carlin isn't an owner, an admin or a moderator of this site and suggesting to someone to start a new thread because he doesn't agree with their views is pretty pretentious and rude. I don't even tell people in OT to stay on topic or start new threads but Carlin finds it necessary to tell me, he doesn't find it necessary to tell anyone else on any other thread but me on this thread. And you want to talk fair? So if he didn't suggest it then what do you call what he did? I call it flat out telling me to start another thread and then he tells me to troll away. Funny shit. Except I am not laughing and not because I am an admin because if I wasn't an admin I would have told Carlin off because it is arrogant to think he controls this public forum and can tell others what, when and where to post something.
 

"Whether or not you "would like" to see it, does not make it legal, nor should that opinion be forced upon anyone else. Maybe you should start a medicare thread so we can discuss confiscatory taxation, the definition of "public funds", or the impact of medicare on the healthcare system. This thread is actually about Obamacare."

Funny that first quote is slamming my opinion with his own opinion. BTW, it isn't my opinion it is the law, even the supreme court upheld it to this point.

I think these 2 phrases sum it up for me. I don't think I misunderstood what is being said here. And then we have this "By all means, troll away."  I don't think I misunderstood what is implied or said here either.

So, I ask again what is fair? Is fair having me go around and police all members that go off topic or would you rather have Carlin police who goes off topic. You may want the manipulation but I really don't.

BTW, it isn't my opinion it is the law, even the supreme court upheld it to this point.
 

I do think there is a point being misconstrued with this statement. The "law" that Obamacare has become, is based on an opinion about who needs to purchase mandatory healthcare insurance, so that the indigent and/or financially unprepared, (for a myriad of reasons, some good, some not) are provided for. The point then becomes how much of this "law' was based on dishonesty in the selling of this new institution of bureaucracy.

The apparent missing component of the Latino sector that has not signed up, is a calling card or premonition of the doom, that the entire premise of Obamacare's program is not going to make healthcare improvements across the board at a lower cost, as promised. That some people, the one's who are prepared in the least to handle their own care and its responsibility will benefit the most, and the one's that are the healthiest who are required to pay, but are counted on to not make claims will be the losers.

That is what this thread is about. Not about the sky falling because of socialist medicine concerns during the time of the Medicare institution being implemented.

My point too, is that the ponzi scheme idea should always be suspect to base our institutions on, if one likes to keep to accuracy and stability in the value of anything.