Meditation vs Prayer - Page 3

Moons....very nice, perfect song for a misty day with a drizzle and grayness of clouds and fog....its amazing how some songs from 70's still sound timeless and can fit any era....i can totally see this playing on a radio now days...

You were taught wrong Bee......
As for voices answering back, well that's biblical history, the entire basis of the book, now where do you think those voices came from?


 

LadyFrost,
the image is what caught my eye, the song is an old favorite along with so many others.

Yeah timeless.

Moons,

Sorry, you don't know what I am talking about. That is okay.

I am asking about any one here, personally, if they think they have heard God in a prayer, most definitely do not want a Biblical reference. Don't pollute this one about scripture!  My questions are more about how do people who answer on this thread, determine at what point a prayer becomes personal? I asked has any one thought they heard God answer back? You really aren't my target audience, so don't feel bad or anything when I say you don't need to answer.

You said your bit. It was pretty typical of you. Now, why don't you start a new thread so you and Lady Frost can get to know each other better? That's really what you want to do.


 

Bee,
it's not up to you........

When your finished sitting on that thumb you can take it out and suck on it !!!!


Hehehehehehehe.

 

Crude of you. You are starting to lose it. Don't worry I am not responding to you any more.

bee.... here is another idea....i always wondered if by putting someone in deprivation chamber and eliminating ability to use senses like smell, sight, sound....would one reach meditative state faster? or is part of a challenge to reach meditative state is to obtain ability to eliminate disruptive obstacles and concurring one self?
 

I don't think the point is being able to go into a meditative state faster. I think that does happen with  practice and interestingly enough, that is how meditation and prayer are usually described, as a "practice". That does seem to imply that there are levels and steps to accomplish.

 

well i can see meditation requiring practice...i don't see how prayer would...you either pray or you don't...you don't need a specific state of mind to be able to pray.....

What you strive for in meditation depends on where you are coming from as a person. It is very much influenced by your belief system. Traditionally, it has been a way of connecting with 'the other', whether you call that 'other' a diety, the oversoul (transcendentalism) or just your subconscious mind.

That's my take on it. From my own perspective (Christian) it is different from prayer. For me it is seeking the divine presence. And yes, sometimes a conversation ensues. Other times it is just resting and relaxing in that presence, and feeling loved.

As for Hundmutter's comment on people who meditate not being successful in life, and using it as an escape, well, I can see that happening. However, it could also be those who meditate don't judge success by the world's standards. Jesus and many other religious figures lived very simple lives, and money and material possessions meant very little to them.

Timothy Leary would disagree..he might even be disagreeing as we speak....LOL

Bee,
your still the village idiot.
You can't help drawing first blood can you.