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blind leaders of the blind. If the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. But another Jesus tells the brethren to pray for their salvation.

The true Jesus Christ will make people holy and perfect. But another Jesus Christ of the preachers says that nobody can become perfect.

The true Jesus Christ preaches wrath of God for disobedient sinning people. Another Jesus of the preachers loves the sinning people with unconditional love and he promises them rewards in heaven.

A preacher, who appears to be a spiritual decent serious preacher, recently saying in many of his messages that it is enough that we studied the Bible and it is time for us go to Jesus Christ to hear from him as ifJesus Christ has nothing to do with the Bible. It seems that he is in the process of introducing a Jesus Christ who is not from the Bible. He says to go to him on our knees in prayer and he will talk to us. He says many things right, but introducing another Jesus Christ who is not from the Bible is weird. It is very dangerous even though it sounds spiritual. Then he says that Jesus Christ is speaking to him all the time and he always has close fellowship with Jesus Christ. That is, he is already into this false Jesus Christ and he is trying to hook this false God to his followers. Is he trying to start a cult? He tells us to put the Bible aside, which is the light of our path. So, without it we can be easily lead astray. The second danger is that he introduce us to a Jesus Christ who is readily available and who will always talk to us. How many times God talked to Abraham? How many times God talked to David? God spoke to Moses often. Even Moses could not say what this man says. He is introducing another spirit other than the spirit of God. Be careful with such men. They have another false Jesus Christ, who could be a cheap demon spirit.

  gouda

gouda,

  Your perception of the scriptures, is indeed frightening. You have the audacity to come here and say my Christ is a false Christ. Then you attempt to back your accusations by posting scripture after scripture, that you have tainted with your warped understanding.
  My Christ doesn't want me using his name in an arguement. I will leave you to your beliefs. You have your own rewards.

I have never posted on a thread like this before, as I didn't want to argue about my God and the scriptures. That in itself seems disrespectful.
With Jesus Christ, ALL things are possible. The only way to the Father is through the Son.

The false Jesus always offer religious expressions that have departed from the plain
and literal truths of scripture.
Cain did not refuse to worship,he even apeard to worship in great enthusiasm,
but he was visibly shaken when his false worship was rejected.
It is imposible to find a more perfect picture than this in describing the present development of the false Christs spirit.
All religions are being elevated to an equal footing,and anyone who dares claim exclusiveness receives a sound rebuke.
In fackt,the only religion unacceptable in todays   general mind set are fundamental  Christianity.
The religious attitude being promoted on a world wide basis is tolerance and respect for all
religions AND ABSOLUTE HATRED FOR THE NARROW WAY.
This religious will be one of the most striking of the false Jesus characteristics.

   gouda

Abhay  wrote

  Your perception of the scriptures, is indeed frightening. You have the audacity to come here and say my Christ is a false Christ. Then you attempt to back your accusations by posting scripture after scripture, that you have tainted with your warped understanding.
My Christ doesn't want me using his name in an arguement. I will leave you to your beliefs. You have your own rewards.

I have never posted on a thread like this before, as I didn't want to argue about my God and the scriptures. That in itself seems disrespectful.
With Jesus Christ, ALL things are possible. The only way to the Father is through the Son.

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my reply   Now first of all show me where I said you Abhay worshipped a false Christ?

Abhay you jumped all over me because of my bible interpitation,so it seems that you do like to argue,
I call it discussing.

Now about the false Jesus   John 5:43
I have come in my Fathers name and you do not receive me;if an other comes in his own name,him you will receive.
The whole ball of wax comes to this.   1 John 2:4    He who says,I know Him and does not keep His commandment is a liar.

   gouda

The video is "to Christians"..It should only serve as a reminder that we are to share the message of Christ with love and compassion ..All to often Christians ~~because of their poor doctrinal beliefs ~~ get to thinking they have by some act of their own obtained a good standing before God....hence the "holy'r then thou" attitude,,

I know that I may sound repetitive, but this is why sound doctrine is so important. If we don't have a clear, biblical understanding about the fundamentals, we continue screwing things up as we go... Unless we have a clear and biblical understanding of OUR condition before a HOLY GOD we are going to "behave badly" towards others for lack of a better word...

That does not however mean we are not to speak against sin when we are confronted by it,,If we are asked we should give an answer for why we believe what we do.There is however a way to speak and communicate and when love is the motivation it is apparent to the hearer regardless of whether they agree or accept it...

Christians should be much more concerned about judging each other which is a biblical concept. The judging of the unbelieving should be left to God. Sin will be remedied when the heart is changed,,:)

Deanna,,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0UyTS22gpU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FhZr2ZBw5g&NR=1&feature=endscreen


   gouda

In the Bible Paul speaks of 'Ministers' changing the Gospel to suit the people, preaching ear tickling sermons, accomodating their sins!. It is  happening today and definitely not of God.  Quick, fast growing churches making money hand over fist.

In addition, Malachi emphasizes the importance of repent, when he speaks about results of repent. "Return to me, and I will return to you, says the Lord of hosts" (Malachi 3:7). The result for the repent of man to God is that God speaks to man. This is very important. Until such time pass - the person does not turn to God, God will not ask the man. Only when the people turn/repent, then God will turn to them with salvation, not before. Christ died on the cross for our salvation. We believe that Jesus made salvation possible for us. We believe in that which he “Jesus” wrought salvation - that he really took our sins. They “sins” have been punished, and God will no longer punish elected people for the sins, for which he already punished his son. And so…Yet a person gets saved only when he turns/repent to God, and not before. God justifies a human only after he/she believed. No man is born already justified and free from sin. Only after believing - God removes the guilt of man. God promises to meet those who believe, and those who believe it to eternal life. He says: "That whosoever believeth not perish but have eternal life."
In conclusion, read a few words from the Book of Jeremiah. "You had punished me, and I am punished as a bullock indomitable; Restore/convert me and I will address/come to you, and for thou art the Lord my God." We know that human by himself cannot be converted to God. If God will NOT convert him, he will not appeal/ be converted to God. This does not mean that human is free from any liability to turn away from sin and trust in God. No, he must do it. This tells us a different story. If we speak/say to the man about sin, if we encourage him to turn to God, if we tell him about the importance of the need to address it, but he/she does not appeal and repent, we must understand that the rest is up to God. We cannot grab a man by his throat and say, "Turn to God!" We must have an open prayer to God and say, "Lord, This man does not want come to you.” The idea or thought of human repent is now going to end up in the hands of God and so to give us patience in preaching of salvation.

Hi Redsable

That was a wonderfull video that you posted. David Wilkerson was one of my alltime favorite preachers.
At one time i had about 100 of his serman cassets.  I sent them all over the world to peope my wife and I met over the internet.

Your friend in Christ

  gouda

P.S.  hey  GSDtravels, God will not be mocked,  He used your post that you intended to bring discord between the Christians here,.
He used it to bring out the truth of his holiness,and  to show the state of the Church today.
I thank you so much.

gouda

Gouda, you're that one that brought division to the discussion with your dogma of intolerance and hatred.  Your god IS mocked as an evil monster.  Very different than the one this young lady worships.