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That is very nice. 

Since you are participating on the sport forum please share what you have done to improve your scores in tracking, OB and protection?  Why the low scores in the protection phase, shallow grips, lack of control, or slow outs?

 

First trial, was very nervous,dog not ready,I was not ready.
Thats the only answer I can give you,the truth. I found the obedience focus very difficult,I just wasnt fast enough and very clumsy with the balls. Im a lot better now,and hopefully achieve higher scores with this pup in the future.   My pup at six months is a better tracker now then my male was 2.

  Have a nice day

   gouda

,I just wasnt fast enough and very clumsy with the balls. Im a lot better now,

Huh?

 

Slandunc.

In other word as a beginner I was not able to train my dog the  way a seasond  train er   would.  I had to learn ,my dog had to learn.  Is that  explination satisfactory.
The dog moved at the pace that I set in the trial, I moved slow in the heel,the dog heeled slow to keep in position. My turns were slow,so my dog was also slow to stay in position.   You can  say what you want Slamdunc,but I passed the first trial my dog and I   entered.  Many seasoned people  fail their  first time .  By the way Slamdunk  He is the sire of the poilce k9 dogs,and the search and rescue dog. 
Learnig t o ke e p a dog in position w ih ball is very hard for me.  gouda

These are my thoughts; This is the only PDB forum I am on. There was another on FB, I think "German Shepherd Group" but haven't been on there in many months. 

I see a couple of things: Gouda; 2nd pg you state something to the effect of "only after they have given us proof they have ever bred a real working dog"......... I'm going to take that as a typo??? That could open up a whole can of worms? In my eyes unless you know the person or have a GOOD idea of the individual there's plenty of room for mistakes in either typing or reading the comments from posters. Saying that I honestly would think there would be FEWER "Working" dog individuals. We are talking of professionals, in their daily, some lifelong, jobs or duties handling their dogs. Someone who went to a school, kennel, agency/Department either paid for or paid out of their own pocket to school, train for what ever their specialty or scope of work is. 

The hardest thing I see here, at least on this PDB, is some individuals with little or no "street experience" BELIEVE they know or can speak of the street experiences or the dogs doing that duty. And every "WORKING' dog is just not a PSD K9. There are so many different jobs. Now I for one, wouldn't sit and talk or even argue over say, Field Trials, SL GSDs or scores because I have very little if any experience in those things. But MWDs; military and civilian, PSDs, EDDs, S&Rs, and "working" dogs I can comment on. 

My point is.......... If I asked on the PDB: "I need examples or ideas of constructing a Herstik Wall"  because I'm getting ready to build one or if I asked "I need ideas, methods or exercises to increase K9 Search Endurance" I know that only a small handful, (if that) of individuals would be able to comment.

In my eyes it is MIND BOGGLING and TRULY AMAZING what dogs can do. Especially the true working dog! To see a dog fight a perp on the street , to man track, to find the drugs/explosives/contraband. To do the job it is trained to do! Just saying or picturing a dog doing the job IS NOT the same as working the dog, handling the dog and training with the dog. And most of all...... winning, doing the job of/with the dog!

The reason there are smaller numbers is not everyone can or is made to handle a "working" K9. And I'm not being mean but that is the truth.

QAhhh what about a farm dog ? They are not a real working dog ? I beg to differ. It's almost 6:30am and both my farm dogs by now split the herd in 3 groups heifers, calves and bulls over an hour ago prolly so the worker can drop grain and throw bales making the job easier and without getting hurt while I'm away. By 7:30 they will have all the horses threw the 53 acres of splithoof ground and on there own grounds. Saves time and moneys and I know stuff is getting done safely. Pretty much the workers just have to ride the wheelers, open/close gates, feed, water, and muck stalls/paddocks .. that's it, my dogs handle all the livestock and horses. Just because my two dogs don't work in a public service doesn't mean they don't hold the title. Well maybe n this dog forum, but in the eyes of my insurance provider, they are the ones who do the working farm dog assesment every year for premiums, property value and liability. Farm insurance isn't a joke when it comes to farm dogs and farm work. Working farm dogs (after being evaluated by the farm insurance provider) are concidered not only property but also a employee and worth 3 human workers by farm insurance standards. My 2 dogs are worth more that my 4 barns according to the insurance company. So I think it's foolish to think only real working dogs are in public service. Just saying.

BE, your farm dogs are definitely working dogs in my book!  

That's true. Working farm dogs are true working dogs too. Definitely.

Hello new in the sport my big time problem is the let go in bite work The helper say the my dog is to much defense but I mind a lot hard for Me to control him what u people suggest to fix this problem when Finish the bite work everyone can come and pet him even children But when he heard the whip or see the sleeve he want to kill Thanks for ur opinion and help

Start a new thread with your question Willsoon, (Post new message )and you will get more answers. :)