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gouda

by gouda on 02 August 2013 - 21:08

Carlin

The only ones here that I pick on  in this post is the faith that tells us that Christ is a liar,did not die for us,and never raised himself the third day.
And burns and murders Christians that believe in his redemptive power.

So what I called you is befitting you.

gouda

by Ibrahim on 02 August 2013 - 22:08

I found the correct English name of the group, Freemasonry, freemasons

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 02 August 2013 - 22:08

There are enough lies to go around for everyone.


 

gouda

by gouda on 02 August 2013 - 22:08

When tribulation comes,God chooses to uphold His name using a few people
rather then the whole crowd. When Jesus said,whosoever has ears let him hear,
He might well have been seperating the true believers from those who were Christian in name only,
and showed no evidence that they understood the gospels and its implications.

    gouda

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 02 August 2013 - 22:08

Or gave a shit.

Carlin

by Carlin on 02 August 2013 - 23:08

The only ones here that I pick on  in this post is the faith that tells us that Christ is a liar,did not die for us,and never raised himself the third day.
And burns and murders Christians that believe in his redemptive power.

So what I called you is befitting you.


That's not your business, or the gospel message.  If you'd pay any attention at all to what Ibrahim has written, particularly in response to my questions yesterday, you'd understand that the motives are political, under the guise of religion, much as the atrocities within institutional Christianity have been. 

Call me what you wish; those words are simply your indictment.  You're not harming anyone but yourself. 

by vk4gsd on 03 August 2013 - 00:08

gouda and shitall, you make me embarrassed to be a man and even more embarrassed to be a man raised in a  Christian tradition. i would be less impressed but gather you both have mental health issues so sympathy and pity is the only emotion i can gather.

 

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 03 August 2013 - 01:08


Gutless Pecker Head,,??,,Omg Smile.....lol,,that just might be one of the silliest things I have heard said here in a while!..lol..gouda, did you really just say that!!...

ggturner, I plan to check out your links thanks for posting,,

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 03 August 2013 - 02:08

Ibrahim  - yes there have been several books written about the
Freemasons, some of them highly critical.
Roots are in the master building masons and trade guilds of the
middle ages in Europe.  The Masons today sees itself as a 'network'
of well-to-do businessmen who organise contributions to various
Charitable causes
 But there are other elements involved:  master masons had the job
of managing the building of Cathedrals,  but although most of those
would be seen as 'Catholic' institutions, depending in where you were
in Europe and at what time (pre- or post- Reformation), those of the
Catholic faith are not welcome in the Masons.  Can't remember off hand
when that exclusion stems from or why - it'll be in the books !  Its all
pretty much about 'middle aged white men in suits'.  Freemasons are
accused of being sometimes corrupt [in a 'jobs for the boys' - ie other
masons - way], which they deny.  They are pretty secretive about
their organisational  and ceremonial structure.  There are local and
industrial Lodges, each Lodge has its hierarchy, from Grand Masters down.  
There are ceremonies when joining etc, some of which are pretty weird.  
Thinking purely on the public, charity supporting face of the Masons, my
personal opinion is that while they do some good in the world, their
money has been spent on their Lodges and Freemasons Halls first
- and very grand some are, too.  I believe the US has some similar
organisations, Buffalos etc ?
As to the Illuminati I think possibly too many people take Dan Brown's
novels too literally;  and I think Freemasons would love to be the force
behind a New World Order, but I doubt they are capable of being more
than a smallish cog in a much larger wheel when it comes to world
domination.

gouda

by gouda on 03 August 2013 - 08:08

Hi Deanna

Yes I said that,hope your not surprises,
You should know by now that I hate fence sitters.
Have a nice day dear.

  gouda





 


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