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by GSD Admin on 23 March 2012 - 22:03
Look at Rush, did he hit rock bottom? Nope, but he says he quit. Believe it or not.
by beetree on 23 March 2012 - 22:03
GSD, 4 years and you still crave? There is no way anyone could ever get me to smoke another cigarette. But I was lucky, getting pregnant somehow made it easy for me to quit. But once I did, and felt the physical cravings disappear, it really was a relief not to be a slave to the smokes.
The cocaine took its toll on her heart. I don't get why she was on muscle relaxers unless she had some kind of back problem. The marijuana could have made her sleepy, mixed up with the anti-depressants, xanax, I believe. Whitney said herself, she wasn't ready to quit. The only thing I know about intervention is from watching Dr. Phil and boy do they fight it.
Well, unless you are thinking that since her bodyguard left, and family took over "watching" her, they just did a lousy job of it?

by Felloffher on 24 March 2012 - 01:03
So much for family and friends.
Moons.
Moons,
This is exactly what's wrong with our society, too many people don't want to take responsibility for their choices or their actions. It's always someone elses fault, hell we should launch a class action law suit against her friends and family for their gross negligence causing her death. She made a choice to use drugs and suffered the consequences. Is neglect the cause of all drug addicts deaths or just the one's that are famous?

by GSD Admin on 24 March 2012 - 02:03
I do believe if you have family or friends who use and are addicted and you do nothing for your loved one, then yes you are partially to blame--not for the addicition but for doing nothing, if on the other hand you tried and the person went ahead and continued using then no it is all on them.
If you had a family member with old-timers and you did nothing, isn't that neglect? Or do you expect the person to realize they are sick and go to the doctor on their own, after all it is their choice to do nothing? Addiction is a sickness folks, it is not a choice, most people don't start using thinking they will get addicted. No?

by Felloffher on 24 March 2012 - 03:03
Alzheimer's isn't a disease caused directly by lifestyle choices, so I really don't see how you can compare it to drug addiction or how it is treated. But, I really don't see addiction as an illness either.
I'm 35 years old and for as long as I can remember there has been an educational campaign warning us of the serious consequences of drug use. In any city you don't have to look far to see how drugs negatively impact people. I'm sure many people don't think they will get addicted, but it isn't a secret that risk is there.
I'm a smoker that is well aware of the risks associated with smoking and was aware of these risks before I started. I made a personal choice to smoke and I would say I'm addicted. IMO it's not an illness, it's a dependency or a crutch. I've never attempted to quit, but the day is coming. I'm sure it will be tough, but it will only happen when I make the conscious decision to quit. I can't blame my family or friends for not helping me quit or the tobacco companies for suppling a product that kills, because in the end I made the choice.

by GSD Admin on 24 March 2012 - 04:03
You don't think the advertising, movies and the people around you played a role in your smoking? I do.
You didn't just pick up a pack of smokes and decide to try them out of the blue.
And yes for some people addiction is an illness and I don't think we can compare a legal drug to an illegal drug. After all smokes aren't even considered a drug.
I also believe that eventually alzheimers will be proven to be tied to the choices you made or better yet the amount of fats you ate. Notice the sharp rise in the last 20 or so years? I do.

by ggturner on 24 March 2012 - 12:03
Alzheimer's, BTW, is on the rise due to multiple factors: people are living longer (more common in older people), the baby boomers are getting older, testing is now done at earlier ages, diabetes and strokes (both of which could be due to diet choices) contribute to the development of the disease.
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/healthcare/alzheimer-s-rise-people-live-longer/20120122

by yellowrose of Texas on 24 March 2012 - 19:03
HE could not move without his daily cocaine fix. THE musicians who played for him, and I know one of them very well, attested to the fact, they ALL used WITH IKE>
Many of the musicians that witnessed IKE TURNERS demize, quit using and left the music industry , because it has been well known , as I was told by this very accomplished musician, who helped, IKE get treatment, to no avail...that if you stay in the business, it is almost impossible to kick the habit.
IT is a part of the music business and HOLLYWOOD>>or not even HOLLYWOOD>>THE circuit you travel with all the Musicians and show business is DRUGS , DRUGS and more drugs...Started when they were all 14,yrs old..MOST OF THE big users including ELVIS Presley< STARTED at 14yrs old at the doors of Stax studio and on to the end of a lot of their lives at 30 \40 yrs of age.
IT WAS and still is , expected of you if you are one of that venue to continue and it is gonna be there until end of time.
IF they legalize it, some of the non stop selling and money making will stop and the cost to our State and Government and hospitals and institutions who have to cover the cost of these addicted people, will go down considerably.
Ike never did stop, even though a lot of his distant friends thought he had..HE, like WH, died with it in his blood infact of an overdose and in very poor health.
YR
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