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by Mystere on 07 October 2013 - 15:10

Don't tell me that an apologist's ox was gored!!

by Kevin Nance on 07 October 2013 - 16:10

Hi, Susie,

Language barrier aside, I think you do indeed "get it."

Very best to you,

Kevin

by gsd39mr on 07 October 2013 - 16:10

it's very sad for me to see what the WDA has become. I attended the show since it was only an hour drive from my house after not being at a SS for several years. I used to enter my dogs and enjoyed the whole atmosphere and camaraderie of a large GSD show (300-400) entries. This show revealed why so many people have abandoned the WDA as I have, either not renewing membership or not entering the events. The protection work was pathetic, the males were a little better than the females. There were more than a few who did not receive one stick hit and still the dog was hanging on with literally one tooth. I've never seen such pumping up and even the "packen" command on the long bite. To have 8 VA's lout of 12 dogs (females) and 11 out of 22 (males) is disturbing but it seemed like all the "right dogs" got in the VA ranks. Sadly there is no longer any room for the 1 or 2 dog owner or small breeder in the WDA.

by zdog on 07 October 2013 - 17:10

No, the USCA is NOT correct in prohibiting members from anything.  This IS what some power hungry at the top want, absolutely.  There were a lot of members in WDA that are really good dog people, myself included and others that have represented this country in the WUSV championship for wda and usca.  For a long time.  They were FORCED to make a choice.  It has taken a lot of stronger members and ultimately put them on a "side" where they had more opportunity.  It weakened the WDA just like they wanted.  and when I say they, I mean the same power hungry children that were running UScA weren't all that different than those running the WDA presently.  and sadly they don't have the stronger members to challenge them.  Of course this is a result of 20 years of children behaving like children and one side is gleefully licking their chops in anticipation of the other sides demise.  

I think that has changed for the better for the UScA for the moment at least.  But there have been times in the past that UScA was nothing but a good 'ol boys club as well and they crap they shit out was a stinky as the stuff the WDA is doing right now and don't act like it hasn't.  History has a way of repeating itself.  i hope it's long after I'm gone, but you never know.

 

by Agassiz1 on 07 October 2013 - 17:10

I am sure that there are many aspects of the recent NASS show that might raise eyebrows or cause GSD lovers to shake their heads.
Regrettably such is life. I was not at the show and cannot offer any observations on the show
I do wonder though, as does Dog1, why the WUSV would wish to be a party to the rule "issue" and when informed of it, would simply look the other way.
So sad.
Agassiz1

by Agassiz1 on 07 October 2013 - 17:10

I am sure that there are many aspects of the recent NASS show that might raise eyebrows or cause GSD lovers to shake their heads.
Regrettably such is life. I was not at the show and cannot offer any observations on the show
I do wonder though, as does Dog1, why the WUSV would wish to be a party to the rule "issue" and when informed of it, would simply look the other way.
So sad.
Agassiz1

by grshep9 on 07 October 2013 - 18:10

It is interesting that the new SV breed warden Lothar Quoll and male judge at NASS would abide by these new rules, would think it would be his discretion as the change only relaxed the rules and would not be considered mandatory.  I thought his goal would be to improve the german shepherd, like he did by eliminating VA placements in the Bundeseiger to get more diversification in the gene pool instead everyone breeding to the first few VA dogs.  I don't see how the relaxed rules improve the german shepherd.

by Kevin Nance on 07 October 2013 - 19:10

Zdog,

Your assertion that the USCA is run by "power hungry people at the top" is absolute and total nonsense. (your latter small disclaimer aside)

Best to you,

Kevin

by Kevin Nance on 07 October 2013 - 19:10

And, Zdog, I dispute your notion that the USCA has "weakened" the WDA.

The WDA has weakened itself from the top DESPITE the very good rank and file membership you accurately describe.

Best,

Kevin

by Kevin Nance on 07 October 2013 - 19:10

And, lastly (for me on this thread) it should be patently obvious why the WUSV turns a blind eye and or actively "promotes" the WDA.  This despite the WDA's secondary status behind the GSDCA and the American show line version of the German Shepherd.

1.  Hundreds of thousands in German bred puppy/dog sales per annum (mostly show lines).

2.  Hundreds of thousands paid out for too often dubious titles on show lines sent back to Germany.

3.  Less overall influence from a split U.S. delegation  within the WUSV.

Pretty simple,

Kevin
 





 


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