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by Two Moons on 04 August 2013 - 23:08

by Carlin on 04 August 2013 - 23:08

by ggturner on 04 August 2013 - 23:08
WASHIGNTON -- The closing of U.S. embassies in 21 predominantly Muslim countries and a broad caution about travel during August that the State Department issued on Friday touched off debate Sunday over the National Security Agency’s sweeping data collection programs.
Congressional supporters of the program, appearing on Sunday morning talk shows, said the latest rounds of warnings of unspecified threats showed that the programs were necessary, while detractors said there was no evidence linking the programs, particularly the massive collection of cell phone records of hundreds of millions of Americans, to the vague warnings of a possible terrorist attack.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/04/3542743/embassy-closings-travel-warning.html#storylink=cpy
(source: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/04/3542743/embassy-closings-travel-warning.html)
So, the threats have sparked a new debate over data collection by the NSA.

by Two Moons on 05 August 2013 - 03:08
It's a fund raiser.....lol
It's fear tactics used to perpetuate this terrorist myth that has been used so well so far.
Embassies channel funds, this says the banks are closed till we get what it is we want.
I say nothing is as it appears, not here, and not there.
by beetree on 05 August 2013 - 10:08
Services Not Offered
Since there’s such a large number of travelers and a limited number of consular officers, they do not provide tourist or commercial services. The following is a list of services NOT provided by the U.S. Embassy.
• Tourism services
• Commercial services/banking services
• Search for missing luggage
• Settling of commercial disputes for U.S. citizens
• Interpreter services
• Lawyer advice and servicesThis information taken from: The U.S. State Department Travel Abroad website
If I was a traveling abroad or contemplating travel to foreign countries and I heard about the US Embassy closing in the country I was destined to travel, I'd be concerned for my personal safety, before my banking statement.
When you twist everything with baseless doubts, all that is accomplished is stagnation.

by Carlin on 05 August 2013 - 12:08
So let me get this straight, our government increasingly compromises our personal privacy in the name of "security", while the reality of our government's actions are increasingly buried in the name of said "security". How can a nation of "self-governed" individuals proceed as such, when a relatively limited number of people determine "the greater good", with the one way street of controlled information serving only to manipulate public opinion? The choice of just how secure we are as a nation and the corresponding risks and sacrifices must be a conscious decision on the part of every citizen. I have some close connections within the operative side of the DOD/Homeland Security who share these same feelings, which tells me that what is really necessary in terms of confidentiality is a far cry from what is being sold. This isn't the stuff of conspiracy theorists, this is our reality. The article above may serve as a challenge to the reader to draw a fine line between what is "necessary" for "national security", and the resemblances they bear to the mechanisms inherent to some historically oppressive regimes. It is really a disturbing thought that I sit here wondering whether or not the greatest threat to my liberty is foreign or domestic.

by Two Moons on 05 August 2013 - 13:08
you think I was talking about tourists, your link is lame, I wasn't talking about tourists, or your bank account.
An embassy and it's staff represent the United States of America and does business as such in a foreign country.
To serve tourists is not the purpose of an embassy, even though services are offered, it is not the primary reason for the embassy being there.
The money sent is not to feed children or build roads it is ear marked for defense and passes through the hands of politicians along the way.
The policies, proposals, and moneys pass through the Embassy, our ambassador as powers to conduct business as a representative of the President.
They are too small to be defended beyond normal crowd control, they were never meant to withstand a military style attack, they are expendable assets.
Diplomats and their staff know this and except it.
You were right bee, your not "up" on these things.
Moons.

by Two Moons on 05 August 2013 - 13:08
you will see a shift from foreign to domestic, hell you've seen it already.
It's all part of the plan.
The terrorist myth.
Moons.

by LadyFrost on 05 August 2013 - 14:08

by Two Moons on 05 August 2013 - 14:08
Did they warn pearl Harbor.
Did they find WMD's.
Where's waldow, I mean Osama.
Did they leave supporters, friends, at the gates of the embassy in Saigon to die.
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