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by Ibrahim on 28 July 2013 - 15:07

by Two Moons on 28 July 2013 - 15:07
http://www.youtube.com/user/Nhayetalalam/videos
That's all four, save yourself some time.
Moons.
by Ibrahim on 28 July 2013 - 15:07

by Two Moons on 28 July 2013 - 15:07
have it your way.
A rose by any other name.
by Ibrahim on 28 July 2013 - 15:07

by Two Moons on 28 July 2013 - 15:07

by Two Moons on 28 July 2013 - 15:07
(As for the presupposition and "proof" that the Qu'ran is divine, well, that requires the same leap of faith it takes to assign divine inspiration to the Bible, where we can find at least as many compelling arguments in the same vein)
I find nothing compelling in the video's.
by Ibrahim on 28 July 2013 - 15:07
In our religion it is believed that God may forgive human for everything except denying HE is present, that is why Moons I would love you to rethink and consider God's presence acknowledging. You don't have to be a strict Christian, just acknowlege God is there.
I am not a very good Muslim in terms of prayers and keeping fast, I don't do that, but I believe in God, and thus I know I have a chance for HIS mercy, my friend Moons, the vegs we talked about had to be created by someone in the very beginning, that's GOD.
Ibrahim

by Carlin on 28 July 2013 - 15:07
If you believe in Satan, and you understand religion, its history, its abuses, its institutionalization, then you understand this statement to be flawed.however, the Devil hates all religion.
The caricature you believe as the "NWO" may be representative of a far more effective reality without all the fancy names, symbols, and sensationalism. Those forces have been at work for a long time. I mentioned some of those subversions within your last doomsday thread.This NWO is almost ready to rock.
mind control has been happening for a long time
Consider the likes of Georges Sorel and Gustave Le Bon, whose works revolutionized propaganda. Of the masses Hitler offered, "...sober reasoning determines their thoughts far less than emotion and feeling". These videos are poisoning your mind with misinformation and half truths, finding your time, energy, and efforts wasted. If the "end is nigh", what should you really be doing? Something about the real problem, where you can have a real impact? I like to think that if there is any hope at all (practically speaking), it begins and ends with preserving (perhaps restoring at this point) self sovereignty. Christianity? You post alarmist, apocalyptic, doomsday conspiracy videos, and then implore people to pray to God? What kind of soil would you plant in? A salvation based on fear? That isn't real, and it won't stand the storms.

by Two Moons on 28 July 2013 - 15:07
(the way each thing of it is uniquely designed and monitored proves God is there)
Where do you see monitoring?
How would one prove this?
It is the same argument put forth by all who believe in a god, it is so marvelous and complex it must have been designed, created by a higher being.
Sorry I do not believe this is true at all.
I cannot tell you how life began, no one can at this point, but it wasn't magic or supernatural that much I am sure of.
I do not live in fear of damnation.
What I fear is mans desire for dominion, and the tools he will use to get it.
Moons.
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