My Rant; Your Precious Obamacare - Page 2

No matter who you voted for, or who's in office, It's a mistake to let the government into your health care.

It's only getting worst.

I keep dealing with screw ups in the system (paper works) not right, theirs.

nothing is going to save healthcare.  You can't save it by having lobbyists write a healthcare bill and think it's going to affect cost. Costs have been artificially raised and sustained on 3rd party pay, it's not changing without drastic changes to the entire system.  Either pay is going to have to come down or the way people pay is going to have to change.  and these increases aren't due to Obama.  For crying out loud they've been practically increasing by double digits or close to sine the fucking 80's .  Pay attention and quit being so damn partisan about EVERYTHING.

and providers raising costs doesn't add much of anything to the rising costs, as odd as that sounds.  If I am a contracted provider for Aetna and I charge 150 or 500 for a 99205 it doesn't matter.  They're only paying 90 bucks anyway no matter what I charge.  In fact, a lot of provider payments have gone down.  About 5 years ago in this state, BC/BS was taken over by Anthem and provider payments were slashed 24%.  

They are correct in a very large problem that nobody really wants to talk about is the American public itself.  Gigantic, obese, smoke filled alcohol soaked, sit on the ass all day whiners.  Pill for this, pill for that, pill for my child, pill for that child, disruptive in class...give them a pill.  Too skinny? give them pills, too fat, more pills, sad?  Pills, too much cholesterol? pills.  I think the average American takes 12 prescriptions per year.  That's 12 for every man woman and child in the US per YEAR!!!!!! WTF are you doing to yourself that you need that many pills to live?????

We eat up a lot of care for stuff we should be doing ourselves.  That of course shouldn't absolve the insurance companies that increase their premiums, decrease their provider payments and rake in billions or any of the other crap that goes along with it, but it should at least be discussed a bit more.

Well said zdog,
Personally I think if you want cheaper health care you have to pay cash, the insurance industry is an organized criminal syndicate.
And you must do something about the cost of medications, the drug companies are sticking it to us and we just keep on blaming everyone else but.
Substandard care from doctors and hospitols who's only real mission is money, weed them out of business.

Get the government out of it all together.
Find another way of providing basic health care for the poor.


Then as zdog points out, learn to live better.

what pisses me off is requirement to fit into someone else set of "healthy brackets" when they look at your weight and say you are "mortally obese" and i am size 8-10 (i fit into mans 30-32 size jeans), (the woman who measured me and weight me could not believe i weight as much as I did until i showed/flexed her my legs and arms) i am  not by any means into body building but  i do have natural assets that enhance my figure like double d's that probably alone weight 20 pounds...and my insurance went up this year to 189.00 every two weeks...and i work for a health care company...i mean really? its like no one ever conceders that muscle weighs more than flabby, jiggly fat? 
I run daily, i do weight training, and i am labeled as obese person? what an insult.....i will never be size 2, and i will never weight 110 pounds...who ever put me into that category should have been shot on a stop, i wanted to cancel my insurance since i don't use it but once a year for required physical but we are required to have one provided for us since it ties in with our annual health assessment.....

thats my rant.....and i am really pissed off....i now have to keep a journal of what i eat, how many calories i take in so i can have a "manageable plan on a road to weight loss" ....what a load of cr@p...grrrrrr

LOL

Lady Frost.

LMAO@LF........ I don't believe you are a size 8 or a 10!   

Howling over here! haahahahahhaha

 LadyFrost     We didn't even get dinner and flowers this time, did we?

Wasn't one of the "goals" of Obamacare to make sure all Americans had health insurance? 

Well, with my company's new health plan, I am better off not having any insurance and taking the $500 a month premium and setting it aside for the regular doctor visits my husband and son have to make to insure there are no major medical issues.  I am going to have to pay full price for the visits anyway, so what is the point of the health insurance; to help me out if they have to be hospitalized?  Again, we are on meds and see a doctor regularly to prevent the hospital.  If an emergency does come up, my husband's free Medicare Part A pays for the hospital 100%, I just have to pay the doctor, which I now have savings for.  As for my son, we have not had a hospital visit in 10 years.  Our regular check ups, diet, and preventive meds seem to be working.  The gall bladder removal is the last step in a long drawn out effort.  I just need to have this done before my benefit changes.

So... sounds like I no longer need the health insurance.     Oh, wait!!.....  Isn't there a requirement in the Obamacare, effective 2014, that I have to have health insurance?  So I have to pay for something that I will never use and I get no benefit from.  So, the $500 a month I was saving for the regular visits will have to be spent on premiums any way.... There goes my money.  So now I am paying for something I can't use, because the deductible is higher than my expenses.  I no longer have the money or the health benefit to go to the preventive doctor visits or take the preventive medicine (again, that money is going to premiums for a useless health insurance) so the only thing I have is diet.  Doctors have already told me that diet is not enough.  So I stop the preventive.  Any bets on who winds up in the hospital first? 

If my husband goes, the hospital is paid, but the doctor is not.  I do not have any savings to pay the doctor, as that money was spent in premiums.  The insurance company will not pay the doctor, as my deductible has not been met. .....  So how does the doctor get their money?
As for my son, many hospitals will ask for the deductible up front, which I will not have.  If they do not, I am still in the situation to come up with the high deductible...... I do not have.
So, maybe Obama did cause me a pain, as his policy requires that I have to have insurance.  Since my company (do not fool yourself into believing that my company will be the exception) is forcing me to go to a very high deductible and they blame this change, right or wrong, on the new Obamacare....  Yeah, I got it both ways.  Darn, I didn’t even get dinner and flowers first.

Sounds like your company is blaming Obama for screwing you when it's the simple fact they don't want to deal with the confusing and expensive cost and hassel of insuring their employees.