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by Hundmutter on 01 January 2013 - 00:01
I don't think I fit into any one of your four groups.
Refuse to believe I'm alone in that.
Refuse to believe I'm alone in that.
by Preston on 01 January 2013 - 00:01
Guns for home defense or personal protection are not for everyone. Some folks don't like 'em and don't want anything to do with 'em. That does not mean they can't take reasonable steps to protect themselves, things that have already proven very effective. For example folks can buy some type of CS and pepper gas that are quite disabling to any attacker. Lately an item that is popular among folks who don't want to own guns and be trained to operate them safely is pepper gas for bears. This stuff shoots strong stream up to 50 feet and is very disabling to any attacker. Folks can buy very small 100,000 volt zappers that fit into a pocket or purse and are powerful self defense tools. And then there are numerous taser type devices for those who want them.
Folks can keep their doors locked and have a good security evaluation done of their home and premises. Cut back bushes, add night lighting, ask help from local police depts, most have free evaluations for their residents, get a burglar alarm, set up cameras connected to internet so you can access home situation any time from work or elsewhere. Set up a community, neighborhood watch and get to know your neighbors.
Any community law enforcement officer who specializes in reducing neighborhood break-ins will tell you any dog that barks is a great deterrent, but the large breeds like GSD, Doberman, Rottweiler, Schnauzer, Poodle, Airdale etc. can be most potent home defenders. Every prison has numerous stories floating around between inmates of burglars who have experienced a full bite and gone into shock. Many dogs especially herding dogs can be potent home defenders.
Guns are not for everyone and if one makes such a serious decision to own them, most states require keeping them locked when not under personal control. Folks should have proper training and not just a quickie course, but serious training. In a city not too far from my city we have a well known former Navy Seal who runs an excellent training facility, Sealed Mindset. Folks who make use of this range across a wide spectrum of occupation, class, education and both men and women and surprisingly, a lot of women. Courses like this are increasingly available and now make home defense reasonable for old folks and both men and women.
Folks can keep their doors locked and have a good security evaluation done of their home and premises. Cut back bushes, add night lighting, ask help from local police depts, most have free evaluations for their residents, get a burglar alarm, set up cameras connected to internet so you can access home situation any time from work or elsewhere. Set up a community, neighborhood watch and get to know your neighbors.
Any community law enforcement officer who specializes in reducing neighborhood break-ins will tell you any dog that barks is a great deterrent, but the large breeds like GSD, Doberman, Rottweiler, Schnauzer, Poodle, Airdale etc. can be most potent home defenders. Every prison has numerous stories floating around between inmates of burglars who have experienced a full bite and gone into shock. Many dogs especially herding dogs can be potent home defenders.
Guns are not for everyone and if one makes such a serious decision to own them, most states require keeping them locked when not under personal control. Folks should have proper training and not just a quickie course, but serious training. In a city not too far from my city we have a well known former Navy Seal who runs an excellent training facility, Sealed Mindset. Folks who make use of this range across a wide spectrum of occupation, class, education and both men and women and surprisingly, a lot of women. Courses like this are increasingly available and now make home defense reasonable for old folks and both men and women.
by J Basler on 01 January 2013 - 02:01
I HEARD THE REPORT THAT THE SHOOTER LEFT THE AR15 THAT SHOOTS THE .223 OR 5.56 IN THE CAR. THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I HEARD RIGHT AFTER THE SHOOTING. AND THAT THEY FOUND FOUR HAND GUNS INSIDE THE SCHOOL. SO WHATS UP WITH THAT.
THERE APPEARS TO BE AN AGENDA HERE FOLKS Mmmmm.
THERE APPEARS TO BE AN AGENDA HERE FOLKS Mmmmm.
by Preston on 01 January 2013 - 03:01
Yes, that is a good discovery of yours, Basler. You are on to a major problem with the official narrative which appears to be contrived. They appear to be covering something up and going to a lot of work to do so.
The people of America are speaking with their gun purchases as never before. Here is their response to Obama and Feinstein's efforts so far.
http://www.infowars.com/sro-crowds-attend-gun-shows-across-america-in-response-to-fed-gun-grab-plan/
Armed citizens can and do prevent mass murders by guns. http://hardnoxandfriends.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/san-antonio-theater-shooting/
The people of America are speaking with their gun purchases as never before. Here is their response to Obama and Feinstein's efforts so far.
http://www.infowars.com/sro-crowds-attend-gun-shows-across-america-in-response-to-fed-gun-grab-plan/
Armed citizens can and do prevent mass murders by guns. http://hardnoxandfriends.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/san-antonio-theater-shooting/
by melba on 02 January 2013 - 01:01
Preston, J,
It was also my impression that the AR was found in the trunk of the car after the fact. I believe that was in the very first report? That
he had fired upon the students with pistols.
The media has twisted the story into what will suit.
I rarely comment on OT posts, so I will leave it at this, what you post does not fall on deaf ears. Much of what has been posted falls right in
line with what our family believes to be closest to the truth.
Melissa
It was also my impression that the AR was found in the trunk of the car after the fact. I believe that was in the very first report? That
he had fired upon the students with pistols.
The media has twisted the story into what will suit.
I rarely comment on OT posts, so I will leave it at this, what you post does not fall on deaf ears. Much of what has been posted falls right in
line with what our family believes to be closest to the truth.
Melissa
by beetree on 02 January 2013 - 01:01
Wrong sorry, that is just wrong information Melba.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-lanza-guns/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-lanza-guns/index.html
Adam Lanza brought three weapons inside Sandy Hook Elementary school on December 14 and left a fourth in his car, police said. Those weapons were a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle and two handguns -- a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm.
In the car he left a shotgun, about which police have offered no details. Lanza used one of the handguns to take his own life, although police haven't said whether the gun was the Glock or the Sig Sauer.
by joanro on 02 January 2013 - 01:01
Naw, Bee. I heard the same thing as Melba and Basler, that the kook had only hand guns in the school and an AR was found in the car. The talking head even went so far as to comment that at least this one didn't use a semi, so "hopefully" not as many people were shot as in the theatre shooting. That was the first report I heard and I'm pretty sure it was Wolf on CNN.
by joanro on 02 January 2013 - 01:01
I also heard in the initial report that he went to his mother's class room (it was reported that she was a teacher there) and shot her and her students. Then it was oh, she was shot at home, so must've been her substitute, being as she didn't show up for work. Then, no, she was only a sub at the school. Then , no, she never worked there.
I think that's what can be called improvised reporting :-/
I think that's what can be called improvised reporting :-/
by beetree on 02 January 2013 - 01:01
Bull Shit, what do you want me to say? The kids are buried with multiple wounds, each and every one. Leave them all alone and play your stupid conspiracy games somewhere else. Why do you and other's care so much to keep about perpetuating and repeating that which has only been inaccurate reporting at the start? Why is that such a goddamned revelation? Haven't any of you played the child's game telephone? Things get messed up each time they are repeated. They are still processing the crime scene and you all have the facts? Wait and get them from the CT police as they are being released, like every body else.
Please, this really pisses me off.
Please, this really pisses me off.
by joanro on 02 January 2013 - 04:01
Hey, Bee, I didn't say they were accurate reports, or that I believed them. My point was that reporting on something like this these days is improvised....they make it up as they go. Their f$$$ing REPORTERS should wait instead of throwing out a bunch of BS when THEY don't have the facts. That's all I meant.
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