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by vonissk on 06 October 2012 - 19:10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_storyEarth-diver
The earth-diver is a common character in various traditional creation myths. In these stories a supreme being usually sends an animal into the primal waters to find bits of sand or mud with which to build habitable land. Some scholars interpret these myths psychologically while others interpret them cosmogonically. In both cases emphasis is placed on beginnings emanating from the depths.[31] Earth-diver myths are common in Native American folklore but can be found among the Chukchi and Yukaghir, the Tatars and many Finno-Ugrian traditions. The pattern of distribution of these stories suggest they have a common origin in the eastern Asiatic coastal region, spreading as peoples migrated west into Siberia and east to the North American continent.[32]
Characteristic of many Native American myths, earth-diver creation stories begin as beings and potential forms linger asleep or suspended in the primordial realm. The earth-diver is among the first of them to awaken and lay the necessary groundwork by building suitable lands where the coming creation will be able to live. In many cases, these stories will describe a series of failed attempts to make land before the solution is found.
A study of these cultures and their myths reveals many differences exist between Native American and European culture creation stories. However, the most striking point is how many similarities there are. Not only are the stories similar to each other, but they are similar to our Garden of Eden and Noah's Ark stories. This points to a spot in the collective unconscious that spans centuries and oceans. All people want to know how it first began. There is something about an All God, some mud, and divine breath that speaks to us. Though the stories may be different in the details, they are the same in the spirit. Where it starts with A study and study is underlined is a different article then the other one.http://www.helium.com/items/1230215-native-american-creation-stories-comparative-mythology-similarities-in-native-american-creation?page=3

by Hundmutter on 06 October 2012 - 20:10
was what Auel was on about at the root of her stories, but it wouldn't have been taken too seriously at the
time she was writing the first books - she may have had a crystal ball lol
Have yet to read the last one in that Earth's Children series, Land Of Painted Caves, which has been sitting on my
'to read' bookshelf for some time ...
PS Vonissk, that stuff isn't boring.
Erm, changing subject slightly, I went to say something to you on the Birgit v Juan thread but its been cut out
and the topic closed now ! - Your "dinosaur is dead " ???


by vonissk on 06 October 2012 - 21:10
Regarding the Jean Auel books, I thought that's what is was about. I think I read the one when it first came out--Clan of the Cave Bear. I saw the movie a long time ago--Daryl Hannah was her name. Probably 3 months ago it was on on a Sat am and I was flipping channels--I stopped on it, watched about 15 minutes of it and that was it--couldn't take it anymore.
Well I didn't know the thread was gone but it was just as well because the deed is done and it was going to get nasty. Oh yeah the dinosaur--I was fired up and I couldn't think of anything else and that just came out. When people want their money back even tho it is supposed to be nonrefundable they are liable to give any kind of excuse.
Thanks for the sad smiley--he was a good dino while he lasted. Nothing like the Jurassic Park type. LOL..................

by Hundmutter on 06 October 2012 - 22:10
the rest of us backed off and dropped it - I agree, the thread seemed to be turning distinctly nasty; but obviously
the mods felt the same too ?

by Hundmutter on 06 October 2012 - 22:10
I never did see the film version with Daryl Hannah, but remember it being reviewed at the time,
crits were saying it didn't do justice to the book anyway.
Yawn - going to sleep now ! Night night everybody.

by vonissk on 07 October 2012 - 00:10
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