Sitasmom............this one's for you - Page 2

SM, the vapidity of your response is stunning even for you!

Let's have the facts!

Seriously!

I wait with bated breath.................

I happened to be busy with puppies and with training my dogs and with cleaning house and with having clients come an pick up their puppies and with preparing to ship puppies, and with kids and grand kids and with keeping my husband happy.

Sorry I didn't jump through hoops to reply, I had much better things to do....

There are programs for farmworker visa's, so that our crops may be picked by LEGAL immigrants. H- 1B and H2B visa's are granted by the federal government.

http://usa.immigrationvisaforms.com/visas/temporary-agricultural-workers-visa-h2a

I would rather pay more for food than to pay more in taxes for the numerous social programs the government has created to support the ILlegal immigrants.

I cut my own damn grass - thank you!

SM said: "There are programs for farmworker visa's, so that our crops may be picked by LEGAL immigrants. H- 1B and H2B visa's are granted by the federal government"

So is the above your attempt to deal in FACTS?

Let us investigate your "facts":

Per the Department of Labor:

"The H-1B program allows an employer to temporarily employ a foreign worker in the U.S. on a nonimmigrant basis in a specialty occupation or as a fashion model of distinguished merit and ability. A specialty occupation requires the theoretical and practical application of a body of specialized knowledge and a bachelor's degree or the equivalent in the specific specialty (e.g., sciences, medicine and health care, education, biotechnology, and business specialties, etc…). Current laws limit the number of foreign workers who may be issued a visa or otherwise be provided H-1B status to 65,000 with an additional 20,000 under the H-1B advanced degree exemption."

"The H-2B nonimmigrant program permits employers to hire foreign workers to come temporarily to the U.S. and perform temporary nonagricultural services or labor on a one-time, seasonal, peakload or intermittent basis."

SM, as usual, you post erroneous information! Unless, of course, you are suggesting that farm workers require the qualifications cited above!

Remember our little discussion about the Texas school system ranking 46th or 47th in the nation and how Barbara Bush said that cutting the education budget was misguided? You said that you were not a product of the Texas school system - although I never suggested that you were.  Did the school system that you came from rank higher than Texas?

Yes, let us deal in facts, SM - not made up stuff!

Edit: I see you edited your post to  include a link for agricultural migrant visas. Hmm! I wonder if it is that easy, why farmers in Georgia and North Carolina dont just get these migrant visas? Wanna know the reason? Read the circumstances before H2A visas are provided and you will figure it out!

Busy, huh? Does that mean that when you are "busy" starting all those semi-literate threads it's because you don't have puppies to market? Interesting.

SM, I have a great idea for you and your ilk. Include the person who called you to cry on your shoulder about illegal drunks causing fatalities.

Head down to Georgia and help those farmers harvest their crop. It is back breaking work but, hey, we'll keep the illegals from profiting ........ and you'll prove that there are red-blooded Americans who can do everything that those illegals can do.

Lead the charge, SM............we'll be cheering you on!

While you are doing that, I'll continue volunteering at citizenship classes - as I have done for several years - teaching immigrants about the Constitution and Bill of Rights so that they can pass the test and become US citizens.

BTW, have you been able to focus long enough on the requirements before migrant agricultural visas can be issued? You know how you thought that was the solution to the problems that farmers in Georgia and North Carolina are facing .......... just following up on your progress.

Agricultural Worker (H2A Visa)

The H-2A program allows U.S. employers to bring foreign nationals to the United States to fill temporary agricultural jobs for which U.S. workers are not available.  H-2A nonimmigrant classification applies to aliens seeking to perform agricultural labor or services of a temporary or seasonal nature in the United States on a temporary basis. A U.S. employer (or an association of U.S. agricultural producers named as a joint employer) must file a Form I-129, Petition for Nonimmigrant Worker on a prospective worker’s behalf.

To qualify for H-2A nonimmigrant classification:

• The job offered must be of a temporary or seasonal nature
• The employer must demonstrate that there are not sufficient U.S. workers who are able, willing, qualified, and available to do the temporary work
• The employer must show that the employment of H-2A workers will not adversely affect the wages and working conditions of similarly employed U.S. workers
• Generally, a single, valid temporary labor certification from the U.S. Department of Labor must be submitted with the H-2A petition.  (A limited exception to this requirement exists in certain “emergent circumstances.”  See e.g., 8 CFR 214.2(h)(5)(x) for specific details).

 

Before migrant visas can be issued:

"The employer must demonstrate that there are not sufficient U.S. workers who are able, willing, qualified, and available to do the temporary work
The employer must show that the employment of H-2A workers will not adversely affect the wages and working conditions of similarly employed U.S. workers"

Good job, SM - you have identified the salient points.

Now let us go on to the next step:

What is the unemployment rate in the US today?

What is the "real" unemployment rate as opposed to the official unemployment rate?
 
How many people are unemployed in the US today?

Can one justify bringing in migrant workers from another country when there are so many unemployed in the US?

Think it through ............. also consider why Georgia could not just get migrant visas to satisfy their needs if getting visas was that easy! Why rely on the convict population?

See, SM - it is not as easy as the codswallop that the right wing websites that you love to quote make out!

when i was a peach orchard manager i applied for such visa's i just documented that the years before there was not enough help.....my guys came up every year for several years and they were all legal.
filling out the forms was a pain in the butt, and i had to pay them minimum wage, but at night i could sleep.

SM, which years were you a peach orchard manager and got the visas effortlessly and how many migrant visas were you granted?