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by Sock Puppet on 03 June 2011 - 16:06
TRUE STORY.
It took me like one minute to find it. I wasted so much time.
The point is you are a liar. I never addressed you, but you did address me and then you cried when I put it back in your face.
Lets face it you came after me and you are the one with problems. Don't address me and you will never have to worry about me addressing you.
I believe your words, like I woke my husband or I am at work. You can TRY and switch it around all you want. I do not care. Enjoy your lies.
It took me like one minute to find it. I wasted so much time.
The point is you are a liar. I never addressed you, but you did address me and then you cried when I put it back in your face.
Lets face it you came after me and you are the one with problems. Don't address me and you will never have to worry about me addressing you.
I believe your words, like I woke my husband or I am at work. You can TRY and switch it around all you want. I do not care. Enjoy your lies.
by Donald Deluxe on 03 June 2011 - 16:06
"I know that principles of freedom confuses some because they dictate that you need to allow people to say what ever they want even if you disagree with them. That is the hard part in the Freedom business. To shut someone up because you disagree with them is not what freedom is all about."
As both Sue and SP have said, the freedom to speak freely in public is not the same thing as speech on private forums. When owners of private forums restrict content or ban users, they are simply exercising their rights to control who paticipates on their private forums and what content is permitted to stay, pursuant to both their rights of association pursuant to the 1st Amendment (more below) and also their rights to control what happens on their cyber-property (for want of a better term).
To conflate that sort of private speech with what one is allowed to say on the sidewalk demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the 1st Amendment.
Further, your decision to allow Bartmess to be a member of your private forum comes under your decision not to limit your associations as per your rights of association under the 1st Amendment. Those who have said they would avoid your forum because because of Bartmess's presence are also exercising their 1st Amendment freedom not to associate with your forum. In exercising this right of association they are not opposed to free speech as you suggest, but rather are upset that you would permit a known, convicted animal abuser to remain, regardless of how much knowledge she might have, and have made a conscious decsion to avoid places where she is allowed to congregate.
As both Sue and SP have said, the freedom to speak freely in public is not the same thing as speech on private forums. When owners of private forums restrict content or ban users, they are simply exercising their rights to control who paticipates on their private forums and what content is permitted to stay, pursuant to both their rights of association pursuant to the 1st Amendment (more below) and also their rights to control what happens on their cyber-property (for want of a better term).
To conflate that sort of private speech with what one is allowed to say on the sidewalk demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the 1st Amendment.
Further, your decision to allow Bartmess to be a member of your private forum comes under your decision not to limit your associations as per your rights of association under the 1st Amendment. Those who have said they would avoid your forum because because of Bartmess's presence are also exercising their 1st Amendment freedom not to associate with your forum. In exercising this right of association they are not opposed to free speech as you suggest, but rather are upset that you would permit a known, convicted animal abuser to remain, regardless of how much knowledge she might have, and have made a conscious decsion to avoid places where she is allowed to congregate.
by Mystere on 03 June 2011 - 16:06
The defensiveness is getting a bit thick. Just for the edification of those international members who may be too young or uninformed to know : SOME people in THIS country (USA) have had to fight and die, right here in America, for those basic human rights within the lifetime of many members of this forum. Ergo, some of us know all about the loss of freedom, without needing to have been born in a formerly communist country. So, please, don't try to "one up" on who values what we have here more because "you" may have been from the Eastern Bloc--some of us BORN here remember when we were restricted just as much right here at home in the USA.
by Mystere on 03 June 2011 - 16:06
My apologies for going off topic, but I simply could not stand it anymore.
by Sock Puppet on 03 June 2011 - 16:06
I thought off topic could go off topic. I was under the impression, this is the place to go off topic.
Beetree,
Oh yes the fighting. lol.
Beetree,
Oh yes the fighting. lol.
by LadyFrost on 03 June 2011 - 16:06
SP no one is crying....i addressed you, not insulted you, you replied with insults and made this personal, I was on topic with regards to Hans, you made this personal which makes you an idiot, childish, and now you are trying to prove a point that I am married?...you ARE dumber than I thought....
don't worry, i wont address you again, i have very low tolerance for stupidity, and you obviously can't seem to stay on topic, and my personal life somehow intrigues you...very well...I won't torment sick people...it's just not fair in my opinion...
don't worry, i wont address you again, i have very low tolerance for stupidity, and you obviously can't seem to stay on topic, and my personal life somehow intrigues you...very well...I won't torment sick people...it's just not fair in my opinion...
by Ace952 on 03 June 2011 - 16:06
Mystere....many here still don't have those same freedoms. Many are still fighting for it here today.Its not like it was long ago either.
by beetree on 03 June 2011 - 16:06
Yes, sometimes you should just shut up and let people enjoy life. Later, going to get my hands dirty.
by LadyFrost on 03 June 2011 - 16:06
beetree...no i am not related....don't know them and don't care to know them...but i do like you..LOL..wanna be my next love pursuit?..ha,ha..and this is how rumors start!
by Sock Puppet on 03 June 2011 - 16:06
Whatever story you want to tell go ahead. Make the damn shit up as you go. I really don't care.
I never called you names, but you are a pro at name calling.
OCD
stupid
idiot
childish
dumb
dumber
crazy
sick person
simple minded people like you
Maybe you can think of more names to call me. Does this make you feel better?
I see it is better to call names than to speak the truth, like I did. Go ahead make it up as you go. By the way I do not suffer OCD, been checked after my accident and no mental illness. Sorry to disappoint you.
Only 6 year olds call this many names when they have a temper tanturm. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
I spoke the truth, you are on here all day at work, it is milking your company. You are married to a guy. All the truth. You have said these things over and over. To the point of almost bragging about being at work. Whatever, get your merry band together and attack all you want.
I am out of here.
I never called you names, but you are a pro at name calling.
OCD
stupid
idiot
childish
dumb
dumber
crazy
sick person
simple minded people like you
Maybe you can think of more names to call me. Does this make you feel better?
I see it is better to call names than to speak the truth, like I did. Go ahead make it up as you go. By the way I do not suffer OCD, been checked after my accident and no mental illness. Sorry to disappoint you.
Only 6 year olds call this many names when they have a temper tanturm. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
I spoke the truth, you are on here all day at work, it is milking your company. You are married to a guy. All the truth. You have said these things over and over. To the point of almost bragging about being at work. Whatever, get your merry band together and attack all you want.
I am out of here.
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