Meditation vs Prayer - Page 12

I'm sure to you it fits

That was the entire point of hundmutter's question; paradigm.

So sayeth Himself, the OT thread Value Monitor. Good, if you are done, please go. And stay gone. Should have not even bothered. The result is the same. 

Poor Bee,
your thread........OMG !!!!

Still waiting on that report ......:)

Poor? Ok, if it makes you feel better.

Guess you haven't read the news. Boo hoo.

LOL....
whatever.

So..... do we pray..or meditate?

lets meditate on it....maybe we will receive enlightenment.

I know women who meditate who have had an abortion;
I know women who pray who have had an abortion.
I know women who do not do either, who have had an abortion.
I believe abortion within set limits is an acceptable right of all
women to control their bodies;  I do not pray or meditate, and
I have fortunately never had to choose to have an abortion.

I do not believe abortion per se ever had the 'approval' of a majority
of people, or even women, in all countries;  more like  resigned
acceptance of a necessary 'evil'.

Got any better examples ?
 

Lol, nice try Hund, but your logic is flawed here, and I believe you're sharp enough to know it.

 

"I believe abortion within set limits is an acceptable right of all women to control their bodies"

Completely irrelevant,  This is not an abortion debate, or a debate about any moral issue, which points to the flaw in your initial inquiry.

 

examples of some deeds that are just evil, so morally wrong,

This presupposes a certain and specific moral code by which to judge, but who's? Yours? Mine? I let it slide to prove a point, one of which I am confident you are clear. Still, to your latest inquiry:
 

I do not believe abortion per se ever had the 'approval' of a majority
of people, or even women, in all countries;  more like  resigned
acceptance of a necessary 'evil'.

Not only does this presuppose that some who hold a moral value would not act in accordance with it, but the premise is weak.  A July 2013 Pew Research study indicated that most Americans do in fact favor abortion in all or most circumstances, with certain regional majorities hitting 75%.  I suppose I could write a list of these moral issues which conflict with popular sentiment or opinion, however, an argument as to their value is by definition impossible unless we both shared the same rubric. The point, is that such a dynamic exists, and again, I am confident it is a concept within your ability to understand.

That's some deep shit for sure............