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by beetree on 27 February 2013 - 14:02
Hundmutter, uh, the thing about fairies is.... well, you just gotta believe in them!
Here is proof positive they exist in your garden, like the Cottingley Fairies, just for you!
Here is proof positive they exist in your garden, like the Cottingley Fairies, just for you!
by GSDguy08 on 27 February 2013 - 14:02
Any time the theists run into an aspect of life so complex that it would clearly
need someone or thing VERY complicated to make it happen, [eg like God
being capable of watching everybody, all the time, doing everything] they retreat
into "Well don't bother about explaining that in detail, it is simply that God is
all-knowing and all-powerful." And if I am asked to accept statements like that,
I might just as well agree that there are fairies at the end of my garden.
Well, you can believe in fairies if you'd like; But I find it odd how people make statements like that; when the Scriptures are filled with fulfilled prophecy after prophecy. No other book can say that from any other "religion". Sure other religions had so called prophets, but they were not accurate by any means. That's what gives God and His Word so much credibility. People will claim that if someone claims to believe in God they might as well believe in fairies, unicorns, and other myths. That is beyond ridiculous to even make a statement like that.
Shtal, I could not make out what all of that said in the picture. But I did make out something about a day is like a thousand years. Don't follow that interpretation if that's what he's saying. The context in Scripture when it refers to that was speaking about God's allowing man to repent; It is showing God's patience in giving man time to repent if you read it within the context and surrounding verses. Did you not read what I typed though? If we don't figure the fact that there are gaps in the geneaology in Genesis (which was not written to show when the world was created) and also that begat can be a descendant (Like your great grand father begat you; Then you literally would have 8 people (the one's on the Ark) building the Pyramids in Egypt. You would also have a lot of other people living in times which are just.....ridiculous because they clearly did not live during them. You may want to go back and read what all I said.
need someone or thing VERY complicated to make it happen, [eg like God
being capable of watching everybody, all the time, doing everything] they retreat
into "Well don't bother about explaining that in detail, it is simply that God is
all-knowing and all-powerful." And if I am asked to accept statements like that,
I might just as well agree that there are fairies at the end of my garden.
Well, you can believe in fairies if you'd like; But I find it odd how people make statements like that; when the Scriptures are filled with fulfilled prophecy after prophecy. No other book can say that from any other "religion". Sure other religions had so called prophets, but they were not accurate by any means. That's what gives God and His Word so much credibility. People will claim that if someone claims to believe in God they might as well believe in fairies, unicorns, and other myths. That is beyond ridiculous to even make a statement like that.
Shtal, I could not make out what all of that said in the picture. But I did make out something about a day is like a thousand years. Don't follow that interpretation if that's what he's saying. The context in Scripture when it refers to that was speaking about God's allowing man to repent; It is showing God's patience in giving man time to repent if you read it within the context and surrounding verses. Did you not read what I typed though? If we don't figure the fact that there are gaps in the geneaology in Genesis (which was not written to show when the world was created) and also that begat can be a descendant (Like your great grand father begat you; Then you literally would have 8 people (the one's on the Ark) building the Pyramids in Egypt. You would also have a lot of other people living in times which are just.....ridiculous because they clearly did not live during them. You may want to go back and read what all I said.
by Hundmutter on 27 February 2013 - 14:02
The scriptures are 'filled with fulfilled prophecy after prophecy' are they ?
{Incontrovertible} examples, please ?
Beetree, thank you so much, just what I needed.
Now, you got any photos
of God ?
{Incontrovertible} examples, please ?
Beetree, thank you so much, just what I needed.
Now, you got any photos of God ?
by beetree on 27 February 2013 - 15:02
Only personal miracles, Hundmutter, but you gotta believe, for those, too!
by Hundmutter on 27 February 2013 - 15:02
I hereby declare my right to be stupid if I want to be (and to not believe in any god).
Preferably without being threatened with hell
and damnation every few paragraphs.
Preferably without being threatened with hell
and damnation every few paragraphs.
by gouda on 27 February 2013 - 15:02
Hundmuter asked
The scriptures are 'filled with fulfilled prophecy after prophecy' are they ?
{Incontrovertible} examples, please ?
http://www.reasons.org/articles/articles/fulfilled-prophecy-evidence-for-the-reliability-of-the-bible
Just a few of many
gouda
by Keith Grossman on 27 February 2013 - 15:02
These "fulfilled" prophesies are hysterical...it was prophesized in the Old Testament and it says that it happened in the New Testament...well, shit; that proves it I guess! LOL...wow...
"No, this isn't a blueprint I'm holding, it's a 'prophesy'. See that house right there? The prophesy has been fulfilled!"
"No, this isn't a blueprint I'm holding, it's a 'prophesy'. See that house right there? The prophesy has been fulfilled!"
by GSDguy08 on 27 February 2013 - 16:02
Keith actually......you're wrong. The statement you gave is plain ignorance of the Scriptures. Yes some were fulfilled in the New Testament; But many others dealing with destruction of certain cities and other prophecies for that matter were not mentioned in the New Testament. They were confirmed and proven in what.........History..... A secular source outside of the Scriptures. Some prophecies for that matter were fulfilled by those who did not believe in God and actually seeked to go against God's people (Old Testament term, speaking of the Israelites) and Christians in general.
by GSDguy08 on 27 February 2013 - 16:02
I think Paul said it best though in his letter to Corinth when he stated that prophecy was a sign to those who believe. In that context (1st century) it was done to reveal more of the revelation (written word) and to edify the Church; But I think most on this forum who do not believe in God would not even believe in Him if they saw someone rise from the dead. If you are determined that you will never never believe......You probably won't. Regardless of what happens.
by Keith Grossman on 27 February 2013 - 17:02
"But many others dealing with destruction of certain cities and other prophecies for that matter were not mentioned in the New Testament. They were confirmed and proven in what.........History."
Please provide specific examples and in so doing remember that in order to be a true prophesy, it has to be fulfilled, it has to have been made before the actual event it predicts, the details of the prophesy should be specific and unambiguous so as not open to interpretation and it can not be simply a logical guess about an impending event.
Please provide specific examples and in so doing remember that in order to be a true prophesy, it has to be fulfilled, it has to have been made before the actual event it predicts, the details of the prophesy should be specific and unambiguous so as not open to interpretation and it can not be simply a logical guess about an impending event.
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