Freedom of religion - Page 10

Ignoring control freak trolls.



Gouda,

Facts, you don't have them. But we are to provide you and Shtal facts the universe is at least 4 billion years old. You have a book written by men thousands of years ago, many years after the facts. Read any history book and the supposed facts are not "the facts". They are facts remembered at that time by people with their own agendas.

Hello pot said the kettle.

Black

GSDadmin.
GEN.1:1-2
Hear are some of the intepretations of the account.
1- A long period of time may have elapsed between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 or betwwen Gen.1:2 and 1:3.
Some have suggested the Gap Theory,that between GEN.1:1 AND 1:2 AN ORIGINAL PRIMAL WORLD fell with Satan into sin and was destroyed by Gods judgement. Thus at 1:3 GOD IS RESTORING THE EARTH FOR A NEW RACE TO INHABIT IT.  That would explain the missing link which you GSDadmin. or anyone else cant produce. 

THESE ARE NOT MY INTERPITATIONS  BUT WOULD LOVE TO DEBATE THE SUBJECT WITH ANYONE HERE.  I,LL STICK WITH EX. 20:11
    gouda

Interpret a few of these passages gouda.

http://ffrf.org/news/timely-topics/the-abcs-of-the-bible/ 

You can twist the bible any way you like if it serves your purpose.

This is called blasphemy, and you of all should know it comes with a price.

Moons.

Moons
Lets start with all the N.T. verses first.  Please do not dissapear,or run like you usually do before we are done.

 

Burning books, denouncing science, closing mouths, becoming fools
Acts 19:19 (books)
Titus 1:10-11 (mouths)
I Timothy 6:20 (science)
I Cor. 3:18

Acts 19:19    Marked a real change in alliegiance from paganism to Christ.
Titus 1:10-11      They had to be stopped because whole families were being turned aside for disonest gain. read verse 7.

1 Timothy 6:20   The first century church was chalenged by false teachings and human speculations that were PROUDLY PROMOTED AS KNOWLEDGE.  Read Tim. chapter one and Col. 2:21-23.

ICor.3:18    Moons  why not read the whole  third chapter,that way you would have a better understanding what verse 20 is talking about..

Moons,I expect you to follow through with this.  You started this post,and expect you to not runaway this time.

    gouda

P.S. when we are through with the N.T. VERSES,then we can do all the O.T.




 

 

Castrating men for the Lord
 
Matt. 19:12 

Those who choose celibacy so they can befree of family responsibilities in order to give themselves to the work of  God.  I t was a gift from God to be able to live a life of celibacy. It had nothing to do with the physicle act of castration.  Also read 1 COR.7:1-9,,25-38.
 

  gouda
 

gouda,
I do not run or disappear, you speak falsely.

I posted the link so others could understand that any verse taken out of it's context can be twisted to mean something false.
I do not interpret anything, I believe it is wrong, each person should come away with the correct meaning on their own without the play by play commentary of another.
The act itself lends the interpreter license to mislead others which is often the case.

Some of what is brought up on the list is rather thought provoking would you not agree?

My original intent, to show that your particular views are not shared by the majority of humans on the planet cannot be denied.
It was never my purpose to discuss scripture with you.


Moons.
 

Here is what you wrote Moons
Interpret a few of these passages gouda.


My reply- Thats what Im doing.

Moons wrote--

 The act itself lends the interpreter license to mislead others which is often the case. 

My reply,  Thats exactly what you and the athiest  author intensions are.

   gouda

gouda,
again you speak falsely.
You and sthal are the ones who translate and interpret here for the most part, not I.

A few questions for you personally, your opinion, not scripture,

1 Do you believe women should preach in the church as ordained  ministers, priests, or pastors?

2 Do you believe a woman has a right to birth control?

3 Does she have the right to end an unwanted pregnancy?

4 Do you believe a man could have more than one wife?

5 At what age should a man have legal consent?

6 What age for a woman?

7 Should a person have the right to end his own life if he chooses?

8 Is it ok for someone of legal age to drink alcohol?

9 What about using herbs and other natural plants such as cannabis, peyote, mushrooms or the poppy?

10 Does the non-believer have the same rights in society as the faithful when it comes to public displays of their beliefs?

11 Would a primitive human who has no way of knowing your god go to hell just because he is primitive?

Try these instead of quoting verse, I am curious if you can, or will.

Moons.