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by heidii on 22 September 2017 - 08:09

Here is a quick video to demonstrate

by ValK on 22 September 2017 - 17:09

heidii, seems like manifestation of excitement.
wrong - in video she got her prize, bite tug, thus there association for her - she did right and got what she want.
i guess best way to start is to discourage such behaviour by immediately stopping bite work and remove tug from her mouth.
you should do this, not helper.
do not punish physically but speak to her during this  in frustrated voice. let her feel, you're not happy about her.
also one more thing to try, do not keep her for too long, before the bite allowed and do note how she does.


susie

by susie on 22 September 2017 - 20:09

I have seen hundreds of dogs during foundation training, but I have never seen this before.
I really had to smile, but that's no help...

Does she show this behavior in "fight" only, or does she show it with tug on ground, too?
Excitement, maybe combined with some insecureness, transformed into sexual stimulation, and the attempt to dominate? Kind of weird.
I'd try to work without any prey item right now, no bites, just the helper and the dog for one or two months.
The helper running away the final reward - but honestly - no experience, no real clue ๐Ÿ˜Ž
Koots

by Koots on 22 September 2017 - 22:09

Susie - you got what I was hinting at - dominance display? That is why I asked if dog does this when playing tug with handler or just decoy.

by Paul Garrison on 23 September 2017 - 13:09

How old? I have seen this in young dogs, I would try more movement and if mature enough more pressure and civil work from the helper.

by Paul Garrison on 23 September 2017 - 16:09

Ok I see 6 months. If I was the helper I would use lots of movement and pay attention to the dog. Also I would try her on tables of different heights.

Bundishep

by Bundishep on 24 September 2017 - 17:09

Prob good advice paul apply more pressure so she will take bitework more serios no time to take for air humping leave that in the bedroom
BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 24 September 2017 - 18:09

 


More pressure with only six months old .....Not a god idea at this age IMO
 

 

susie

by susie on 24 September 2017 - 19:09

That's what I thought, too.

6 months old female- Hormones driving her crazy for sure right now, and she somehow misunderstood ๐Ÿ˜Ž.
Because of all that I'd skip the bites- let her hunt the helper for a while...
This will build confidence and drives.
BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 25 September 2017 - 12:09


Yep Susie give that dog a break so much more than bitework

6 months old the dog is just (finished) teething why doing bitework ?

I don,t understand this even.............after teething I wait 3 months  at least..
 



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