Game Changer! - Page 5

@GSD  I daresay, you did dance around my asking why you DON'T support Hillary. However, I do understand feeling a strong conviction to not vote for someone, in the absence of a good reason to vote for someone.

That was disingenuous of you to imply the hiring of only low level skill and educated minorities by Trump! That would not apply to Ben Carson at all, and I think you knew I was speaking all inclusive skill and education levels for minority races for the purpose of this discussion. I have not heard any remarks demeaning any group of color as inferior because of their race. I have heard stereotypes relating to illegal activities leveled at individuals.

So— I do think, yes, so we can avoid going 'round and 'round the mulberry bush, and having the singular pronouncement of "racist" be the end all of any further discussion or debate, if you would please, explain in your own words the type of person you are describing when you start calling someone "racist".

Consider this instance, too. I just heard the TV media using the words describing Trump "lashing out again" when referring to his somewhat somber musing, when he said, "Islam hates us." To my ears that was anything but a lashing out, and it should have been a starting point for some much needed dialogue and education on the internal and external challenges presented with the religion's own dividing factions. If I stayed with only my typically USA point of view of things, I certainly can never gain the perspective needed to fully appreciate the never-ending power struggle we see today, that is claiming countless lives. 

Of course the only thing that will be written by some sensationalist writer is that he is a xenophobe. And they would be missing the much needed point— that those words are just begging for the need of clarification. That is how a dialogue should begin, I would be thinking.

 

@GSD. I would comment on the link you provided as well, but really, I think I want you to comment first!

@Joan

You gotta keep up with more current material if you want to corner the Trumpster. He's like pinning jello to a tree. He doesn't associate a change of mind with a weakness.

Apologies that will end up with him being put on the defensive, that he does understand and clearly is not something he is willing to do.

Could you imagine what a meeting between Putin and Trump would look like? LOL Didn't Obama just refuse to show up?

Memory Lane .........................

"They Bring a Knife We Bring a Gun"- Barack Obama

"I want you to argue with them and get in their face"- Barack Obama

"I dont want to quell anger I think people are right to be angry I'm angry"- Barack Obama

"Hit Back Twice As Hard"= Barack Obama

"We talk to these folks so I know whos azz to kick"- Barack Obama

"Republican victory would mean hand to hand combat"- Barack Obama

"Punish your enemies"- Barack Obama

"I'm itching for a fight" - Barack Obama

I don't want to hear anything about Trump starting crap.........

Bee, I listen to his bs every day. He's blowing in the wind and is no more firm about anything than jello...he is uninformed and winging his 'answers' on foreign policy.

Posting comments taken out of context are just comments out of context.
Trumpitista starts fights, insults people, and set up the fiasco in Chicago to use for his 'they are taking our freedom of speech' bs. If he puts anyone who speaks out against him in jail, control the media, he can have
his communist way with what was once a free country. The guy is a demagogue, dictator

Active shooter near Landover, MD Police Station, Officer down… It's a goddamned shame that "active shooter (s)", "officer down", "shelter in place", have become the new norm. Now correct me if I'm wrong but this shit started long before "violent rhetoric" from Trump, right?

Sure it started long before trump but do you want a leader that openly and repeatedly encourages violence?

Imagine if a cop, teacher, business manager, pastor etc did that. We would all be living in a ME hell hole.

Joan, it is hard to have a real meaningful conversation because of your endless hyperbole. I really can't figure out what part of what you wrote is actually...true!

I think when he said Obama was incredibly... oh I forget the exact words he used, so I will say what I feel was the gist of it. He said to the effect that Obama was incredibly stupid to give our exact date for pulling out our troops in Iraq.

It is stuff like that, the no brainer stuff that finally is being said, that makes some policy or Commander in Chief, only needing to be as smart as a fifth grader.

He has stopped that violence referencing ... which if you paid attention to details was spoken in context of "back in the old days". It was a reminiscence, not a present day call to violence.

Of course that doesn't fit the media and his enemies' agenda, though, so you get a repetitive sound bite, instead.

H.R. 347, benignly titled the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act, passed the House 399-3. Such a lopsided vote suggests that nobody in Congress is bothered by this, on either side of the aisle. When President Obama signed it on March 8, almost nobody seems to have cared..... the law makes it easier for the government to criminalize protest. Period. It is a federal offense, punishable by up to 10 years in prison to protest anywhere the Secret Service might be guarding someone.
Today, any occasion that is officially defined as a National Special Security Event calls for Secret Service protection. NSSE’s can include basketball championships, concerts, and the Winter Olympics, which have nothing whatsoever to do with government business, official functions, or improving public grounds. Every Super Bowl since 9/11 has been declared an NSSE.

Think about it

Good god, beetree. The date for pulling out was set when bush was still office...and.. The leader dude in Iraq said, GET out of our country by such and such a date...what you said about trumpet calling Obama 'stupid for announcing the exit date' is precisely my point---the dipshit is winging it. Even a fifth grader can figure that out.
Opinions, bee, not hyperbole... Opinions based on fact.