Question about show lines vs working lines - Page 2

Very well put DH..I wish everyone could be so polite..this forum would be a much better place..and we would ALL learn more and the breed would in turn be better...thanks again.

This thread has been dead for some time. I hope someone picks up on in. The question I would ask is not "what is the better disipline" but "what is better for the dog" In my opinion there is only one answer.

I'm glad you pinged it. What DH wrote was indeed wonderful! Surely the working is better for the breed. ;-) But then - is it REAL work, or just pretend-work? I wonder, does anyone ever measure their kennel's worth by how many pups go out (successfully) for military, police, blind, handicap, rescue, or - God forbid - sheep-herding?

Late I know but... I want to ad my thanks to D.H. for the excellent explanation. Something about a book?

Respect D.H. Great explaination. Even if you forgot to mention some of the work showpeople still have get done with the dog beside spending time in a show ring. Taking a dog from 0 to SchH III while showing the dog is quite normal. Getting a SchH done on a Saturday and showing the dog on Sunday isn¿t that unusual. Taking the dog to the breed survey the following weekend has also happend. Daily or almost daily training, show(ring)-training, running, swimming etc., bitework for the BSZS. Than traveling around to show the dog under the BSZS-judge. Having to find a handler and that not so easy neither is it for free. But the capabilities of a handler can make the difference between having just a really nice dog and a "star".

I really really don't want to discourage you... but... You NEED to find a different club!!!!! ONe that has less bias. I am speaking from experience. unfortunately! With most working line clubs, unless the dog is pretty much "push button" you will only get discouraging comments about your dog. Even if your dog has got plenty of drive and is just as good as some of their dogs they are blinded by their bias. You will never get good training because of it. In fact, they may even tell you that will not work your dogs anymore. You need to shop around for a good club. They are few and far between. But even if you have to drive farther away it will be worth it in the long run. In my opinion, the ideal club will work any dog to it's highest potential and get satisfaction in solving/correcting problems that a dog may have. For there-in lies the true measure of a helper/trainer!!!!!!!!! They will also have time to train for the conformation ring as well as have people to shadow you one on one to teach you individually how to handle your dog. They are out there you just have to look. Good luck!