NINO'S STORY - Page 3

Please do explain the big difference between the FCI standard and the AKC one.

It's a big story, Nino was pulled out of the BSZS, because he was going to be rated V...most progeny from Nino is oversize, weak pasterns and light eyes, white chested and weak ears. Sure he's a beautiful dog, but he's not a top producer.

mr. Goldfarb can say this or that about invitations, but he's member of the GSDCA board and knows the rules, the fact of the matter is the judge knows him and not only he brought the dog ringside, but the judge stop the show so Mr. Goldfarb could address the crowd about Nino..how many of us with our dogs could had done that ?.....and the same judge as the USCA Sieger , which awarded him va1 .

Most all the top dogs at the USCA  were from regional directors, board members of GSDCA or USCA . People are getting tired of it, and why many don't even compete.

 

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Vk4gsd,

Your ignorance is showing.  There is no winning in a  SV breed survey. It is a public display of work and conformation evaluation that shows the strengths and weaknesses of your dog and the koermeister will even make breeding recommendations based on the results of the evaluation and what is known about your dogs genetics.  Where is that done in the AKC system?

No trophies, not even a ribbon or a medallion.  Just a public evaluation that you pay a couple of hundred dollars for so that everyone can have a comprehensive educated evaluation available.

 

Niño is a beautiful dog and has a lot to contribute to the breed here in the United States. It was an honor to compete against Dr. Goldfarb at the USCA Show and I think that the proper respect should be shown to Dr Goldfarb by addressing him as Dr and not Mr. I'd like to mention that you cannot control who you are competing against or who enters or does not enter in a competition all you can do is prepare your dog to the fullest of your ability. I am the owner of the VA 2 dog from the USCA show and I am not a board member of any organization I'm just fortunate to have a great team made of many very dedicated friends who give 100 percent to the dogs. 

The issue is people with connections get the positions. Your VA2 Pato didn't even compete as an adult in Germany, only had 10 breedings and yet was placed ahead of a twice German VA Chacco and VA Whiskey and VA Pascha, that is what everyone was talking about, business.

All dogs were running full , many laps the day of the stand examination, but Nino ran half a lap and was escorted out;beginning with the Atlanta show, when a show is STOPPED so the owner of a dog can address the crowd,the writing was on the wall that Nino was going to win. Why? There had been many German VAs and better producers than Nino here in USA  ( Yasko, Peik, Cobra, Chacco, ) so why the big thing about Nino ? Because he's owned by a GSDCA board member.

Ask most German breeders who of the dogs competing are better producers. That Nino could win is ok, that should because what he had done in Germany, then other dogs were as qualified. Other dogs competing at Niños age some judges had put them back because of it, but the fix was in, and IF Pato was soo good to get VA2 , why he didn't get VA1 then? So you jumped a twice VA most respected Chacco, but not VA Nino ?

in the females side was even worst, George Foremans female was brought from way back to VA2, and not that it couldn't happen, but the way it happened, ask anyone that competed, many took their females out.

please, anyone that was there chime in.

At the show in St.Louis, Chacco was placed 3rd because he didn't maintain his drive in the last couple of laps of the final gating session. The dog that finished second simply showed himself better and maintained his gate better in those last couple of laps in my opinion. I don't believe any politics were involved although I know there are some folks who sit around wishing to come up with some great conspiracy theory on which to blame things.  In this case, Chacco simply didn't not show himself as well at the most critical time in the show as did the dog that passed him. On another day, at another show but even under the same judge that could possibly change and the outcome be different. Both the second and third place dogs were absolutely beautiful examples of the breed but one performed better than the other that day. Even those some may not like it, the judge is obligated to judge what is before him on a given day not what might have happened last year or could happen next year.

Most all the top dogs at the USCA  were from regional directors, board members of GSDCA or USCA . People are getting tired of it, and why many don't even compete.

Ober,  how many board members of the GSDCA do you think own  and show competitive German dogs? Who are they? I know of 3 and 2 didn't show at the USCA as far as I know.

 

Most of us live in the real world where dog shows are dog shows, not matters of life or death to reasonable people. The results are one judge's opinion which can and does vary on any given day. One day Nino wins, the next day it's Chacco. Winning or losing is certainly not a reason to come to a public internet board to trash a judge, a dog, or an owner and to question the ethics of most of the GSD world.  

Ober

If things are so rigged as you say because the top competitors were all officers or directors of one or another organizations, why then did Johannes Grewes (an USCA) judge's dog do so poorly fininshing next to last. Why then did Frank Fasano (President of the GSDCA) dogs do so poorly. And by the way, Dr. Goldfarb is technically not a Board Member (neither officer nor Director) of the GSDCA. He is the SV/WUSV Liaison but that is not a Board Member position.  Also, George Foreman's other dog did not do very well if you recall or did you choose not to recall.