why do people sell adult dogs? - Page 1

Forgive my ignorance, and perhaps stupidity of my question, but why do people advertise adult or near adult dogs for sale on,say, this website, describing the dogs with such fantastic,unique and excellent virtues and qualities about them. You would think that if these dogs were truly that great and special(as the ads make them appear): a.if they were breeders selling ,then it wouldnt make sense selling these dogs as they would(or should) be such an asset for them and their kennels or b.if it was a private individual(like my self) selling,the only thing that would make me sell such a dog would be a major life changing situation(in which case I would make it clear in the ad!) The only other reason that I can think of for selling such purportedly fantastic dogs is that somethings wrong with them! I know this is a very cynical attitude to take, but I just cant believe all the descriptions are correct. I think that it would be best if people say "fantastic colour, angulation, and prey drive, BUT slightly highly strung and and times bites the handler; hence reason for selling" I know I've probably got it all wrong but just cant help thinking this. regards

Nope your pretty much right. They are salesmen. Can't knock their own dog. I always ask what a dogs weak point or points are and if I get "nothing". I just assume they couldn't tell the truth if it fell out of their mouth and I walk away. Next breeder please! Most adds are short and wont spill the negatives as this would scare off some prospective buyers. Go with your gut and ask allot of questions about the dog you are looking into. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

Could be I guess. I've sold dogs due to not being able to train 3 at a time, too many for me. Even though I really didn't want to sell him at all. I've sold a couple here and there that I just didn't click with. Nothing wrong with the dogs, just didn't really like. Heck I have one now I've been playing around with selling, she's great but it's just not there between her and I. Ones I have sold are thoroughly spoiled and cared for in their new homes. Which is the most important thing.

A little suspicion is a good thing. Keep asking questions and learning and hang on to your money. There will always be another, better dog, down the road. The more you learn, the harder it gets to burn you, but there will always be some risk. It's just part of the game. I bought quite a few imports and generally had good luck. I had one problem with a guy who sold me a dysplastic dog and didn't want to refund and take the dog back, but I am not stupid.. I knew he had several litters on the ground and I told him I was going to send the x-ray to the SV. He rushed to refund my money, AND he did not want the big, famous show / stud dog back, either. But you know of course that most Germans sell their dogs quite readily, and one of the reasons may be that they want to take an extended vacation.

Much to my regret, I had to sell a number of very nice adults dogs when I got a divorce and couldn't keep all the dogs I had. Also I always felt if someone demonstrated to me that they cold give one of my older dogs a better life than they had living with me as a kennel dog, I would let that dog go too. There can be legit reasons for selling adult dogs. As always, it's buyer beware.

Do not make the mistake of trusting the Germans too much. They will not mind selling you a good dog, if they have it, but if they don't, they will sell you a bad dog just as quickly. They are loathe to let a prospect get away. It's up to you to do your research so you don't end up with singed hair! Mostly, Germans are looking for money. They don't have a chance to make a lot of it, and the taxes are very, very high over there. For many, little cottage industries like this are one way they can get money for the niceties without paying those horrendous taxes on the income. When I went over there, once, I was met in Frankfurt by a little crew who had apparently been waiting just for me to put on a little training session. They knew I had money to buy dogs and they tried to get me to drink, but I do not drink. This was a big disappointment to them. I watched their little show and got in my car and left for Wippshausen, far to the north. I left them to their schnapps. When I got to where I was going and picked up the two SchH3 dogs I was interested in, I was dead tired, and was offered a room over the restaurant to sleep. But I still had quite a lot of money on me (having declined one dog), and again, I excused myself. I got in the car with my two SchH3 dogs (REAL ones!), and drove down the road for an hour. I fed them and walked them and then I found a sheltered place in the country and pulled off the road. We all slept together in the car and the next day we went sightseeing. No one was going to sneak into my room when I was dead-to-the-world and loot MY cash! Mama didn't raise no fool! I traveled in Europe when I was young, and I saw how the Europeans can be! LOL

Blitzen, you are an American, and I think that this is different. Everyone has life changes, divorce included. I had to let go of some excellent dogs several years ago. Honest to God, it would have been easier for me to cut off my left arm with a dull knife. But I did it for their good, so they could have a chance at life and a chance to contribute to other breeding programs. I GAVE them away! That allowed me to concentrate on who I wanted to have the dogs, versus the money. I don't despise money, but I valued the dogs more.

Excuse me, please, but when you said you were being offered fantastic dogs, I assumed that these were imports, being offered via brokers. American breeders always seem to have too many dogs, and need to sell or place some. It just happens. Some don't get sold as pups and hang around too long. But they are usually nothing to brag about. They may be perfectly fine for what you want, but you should probably go yourself to inspect the dog and pick it up. Otherwise, just take your chances. Good dogs do come up for sale often. The Germans will also sell out on dogs that are bad producers.

To many people a dog is a liquid asset, a good dog is worth 1500 if you need money right now to $10000 if you can find someone willing to pay. As i understand it T. Floyd sold the dog he won nationals w/. this is an example of adog that is capable of winning but the owner wanted to sell it. Bastin was a very nice dog that was sold for big money and did very will here. IMO, good dogs are a dime a dozen to great trainers. because they can get the best out of any dog. they can take a dog taht is scoreing 260' at national events and maybe get antoher 15pts. So T. floyd can take any number of dogs, train it up to a level the average person cant and sell it. If a painter paints a great picture and someone wants to buy it, he'll sell. because he can turn around and paint another. But when buying a young dog you should always be careful as there are more con men out there than honest men.

There are many reasons, and some are acts of selflessness. And if you argue with people selling the dog versus giving it away, I can tell you with unhappy past experience that many people who pay for a dog appreciate it more than if the same dog was given to them for free. Many people think there is something wrong with the dog if you give it away. Other people are truly grateful, but you never know which way people are going to go, so it's better to sell the dog. Reasons of which I have personal knowledge: The owner is ill, and cannot care for all of his dogs anymore. He looks for a new home that will take better care of the dogs. The owners are getting divorced, and the husband ran off several thousand miles away, leaving the wife with all of the house payments, the bills. She is in her last year of nursing school and therefore does not have a job, and must suddenly acquire two jobs to make all of her bills. The wife with the dog finds herself in a suddenly bad situation where she does not have the resources to take good care of herself, much less her dog. It is a great dog, and giving him up caused her much grief. A dog with great bloodlines is raised from birth to 16 months to be the personal dog of a breeder whose very small scale breeding program allows only for OFA good or excellent hips,and the dog she raised and trained as a high drive Schutzhund prospect has only OFA prelim fair hips. Does she keep the dog who is her loyal companion, and therefore be unable to keep another great puppy she CAN breed after she titles it? Or does she sell the dog who is otherwise great and will probably make someone else a very happy dog owner and dog trainer? A breeder keeps back a promising puppy for the specific purpose of playing around with the older pup market, training pup in the basics, and selling it later for more money, while placing it in the kind of training home that a breeder would prefer to see their best puppies in.