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by duke1965 on 04 July 2018 - 16:07
here is a youngster from my breeding, super social, think I am getting some old type stuff again.
For the people that dont know, Im not breeding for pet market, however this boy will make an excelent PPdog
https://www.facebook.com/herby.willems/videos/1944260248970723/

by Sunsilver on 04 July 2018 - 16:07
Yes, looks like some serious aggression there! Looks like he's 'guarding' the sleeve so the decoy doesn't get it back!
by duke1965 on 04 July 2018 - 17:07
LOL he is definately not for sale, and yes its guarding/posession, but he shows identical agression to strange people approaching me and my family, it will mellow down while maturing, but easy to trigger allways

by Sunsilver on 04 July 2018 - 17:07
Good dog!
Are you willing to share his pedigree?
by duke1965 on 04 July 2018 - 18:07
might want to open one or two more generations to see lines behind him

by Sunsilver on 04 July 2018 - 19:07
Made your link live:
might want to open one or two more generations to see lines behind him
You know me - it's never just a couple of generations I want to see!
Hey, how'd those showlines get in there?? http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=479894-elis-saurus
That's one of the most solidly Czech/Slovak pedigrees I've ever seen. You have to go waaay waaay back to find any DDR or SZ dogs. And most of the names I don't recognize at all, except for well know dogs like Grim, Frankie etc. Heck, I don't even recognize most of the KENNEL names!
Wish I knew more about the Czech lines!
I'm guessing from the number of dogs from police or border patrol kennels that these dogs generally don't get sold overseas except for police and military work, as they are too much dog for the average person to handle, even if they are into sport dogs.

by Liberatore K9 on 04 July 2018 - 19:07
by duke1965 on 04 July 2018 - 22:07
only a short one liberatore some work when I just bought her
https://youtu.be/mraVa0USkDQ
by duke1965 on 04 July 2018 - 22:07
Sunsilver, these dogs are easy to handle actually, no high drive all day, even tough he will retrieve everything, even metal,, super social for his own, and absolute no handler agression, one identical brother is with a family who doesnot want to sell it back to me as they say, nobody comes in the garden,
but you must think about owning such dog as its not a pet that will love everybody to walk trough the door, so be smart about it
but yes, most go to LE where there is serious desire for such dogs

by Rik on 05 July 2018 - 12:07
I don't think there are a lot of breeders breeding specifically for these traits. it;s mostly extreme this or that and the procurers sort through what is available and then supply the L/E, military market through contracts.
I don't think most of us here in the U.S. realize that a dog can have the confidence/stability/constitution to have these traits and still be a dog that can function in a family.
most U.S. war dogs in WW2 were donated from family homes for the war effort, so at one time, there were dogs that could function in both areas, though maybe they weren't high point dogs or front of the line show dogs, but they obviously were well rounded, stable dogs.
glad to see that some breeders are still breeding this way.
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