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by Blitzen on 23 April 2007 - 16:04

Sadly, close neighbors and dogs are seldom a good mix. I don't encourage any of my neighbors to even look at Blitz. When asked if he's friendly I say - not unless I tell him to be (which is the truth). We have an underground fence, so he's never outside alone. Frankly, I don't want any of them touching my dog period.

Renofan2

by Renofan2 on 23 April 2007 - 19:04

I unfortunately live in a neihborhood with lots just over .35 acres. I intentionally picked one that backs up to a retention basin, so I only have neighbors on the sides. I have 3 shepherds and have re-fenced my yard twice to provide better containment and privacy. My one neighbor kept complaining that my original fence was on his property, although I felt sure it was not because it was new construction when I moved in and pins marked the property line, however to be a good neighbor I moved the new fence line in 2 feet just to be sure. A few months ago, the same neighbor decided to put a fence up to mine and 1/2 thru installation realized that the 2 feet was indeed mine. On top of that, they adopted a husky who likes to poke its nose thru and howl at my dogs. My middle one goes nuts when she sees the husky. I have told them several times that I am concerned about the dogs touching nose to nose as well as them leaving their 3 young children (ages 1, 3 and 6) out with their new dog unattended with my dogs in the yard. They tell me that they will keep an eye on the kids, but it happens time and time again. I am afraid that one of the kids will get bitten by one of the dogs when they are snapping at each other thru the fence. Now she is baby sitting even more kids and I have caught a group of around 8 kids dressed as Darth Vader and commandos wacking sticks against the fence to fire up my dogs. It is very aggrevating. I have now added a pen within my fence, under my deck, so that I can leave them outside (without me) when I am at home and don't want them underfoot. The neighbors on the other side have two kids, but my dogs don't seem to have any issues with them. I am looking into running another fence along my property line so that there will be a 2 feet buffer between them. I find it amazing that people will complain about a barking dog - but not the 15 kids running around screaming at the top of their lungs for no reason. I just started working from home and am subjected to high pierced screams from 3:45 to 7:30 every night (unless it rains). The dogs only bark for a minute or two when they see something then are quiet. Of course, I don't complain because I don't want anyone complaining about my dogs. Cannot wait until I find a property with alot more land and fewer neighbors!

by ProudShepherdPoppa on 24 April 2007 - 04:04

I have a good fence story. When I got my dog I spent big bucks to have a 6'privacy fence put around my back yard. The home owners association threatened to fine me if I didn't change it to pickets spaced at least 1 1/2" apart. Now my dog can see the kids playing in the street and of course goes nuts because she wants to go play too. So much for trying to be a good neighbor

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 24 April 2007 - 06:04

I have an even better fence story. A guy I know from another board has been told he can't put up a fence any taller than your standard suburban chain link which is about 3 ft. 6 inches. Of course, this is'nt adequate to keep a large dog confined, if it's determined to escape. Now they have also passed a law making it illegal to keep a dog on a tieout. They have also strengthened laws about animals running at large (increased fines, etc.) Damned if you do, and damned if you don't!! Actually, he thinks the homeowners association MAY change their rule to allow higher fences, now that tieouts are illegal. If they don't, he's putting one up anyway, and to hell with the stupid RULES!

ladywolf45169

by ladywolf45169 on 24 April 2007 - 10:04

When I was about 5, I was bitten by a neighbors dog..I grew up with this dog, and the bite was purly an accident. I was playing fetch with him and his bone, held the bone to close to my face, he went to jump at it (in play), and accidently took off my whole cheek. After returning to from the hospital, I wanted to go back and play with the dog...only to find out the owner had already "taken care" of it. I balled my eyes out for days!!! However, due to this...I HAVE ALWAYS taught my children NEVER to approach a strange dog, never to tease or torment an animal through a fence (or anywhere else for that matter), and always ALWAYS ask an owner before ever approaching their dog if it's ok to pet. They grew up on.."if it has teeth, it has the potential to bite"! With my background in Animal Science, I've also taught them the proper and safe ways to approach an injured animal. Teach begins at home, and now a days, MOST parents (IMO), just don't care. Therefore, I not only talk to children about it, but I talk to adults. For years, I actually went into schools with my old female (now passed on) to teach children and was even approached by a postal worker friend of mine to talk to their group. It was a blast! :-)

by Blitzen on 24 April 2007 - 13:04

Sunsilver, he may want to consider an undergound fence as a secondary containment to a physical fence. He could install it 4,5 few feet inside the physical fence. It might discourage the dog from getting close enough to jump it or for a person to stick a finger through and get bitten. Underground fences have their drawbacks; they do not keep anything out of the yard, but in combination with a physical fence it might be what your friend needs. The dog needs to be properly trained, the collar needs to be kept tight enough so the prongs touch skin, some dogs need to be clipped. The owner must keep the receiver batteries fresh and the transmitter must be stong enough for an adult GSD. I don't leave Blitz in the yard unattended, but probably wouldn't even if I had a fence if it weren't at least 6 feet high. An underground fence could also be helpful to those who just want to keep their dogs from charging a fence or biting another dog or a person through the fence. It's worth the little extra money to pay a professional like Invisible Fence to install it. Their products are top quality and they will come and work with you and the dog until it's trained. Most ordinances against tying out dogs are intended to prevent dogs from being tied to boxes or trees 24/7. They do not forbid a dog owner from tethering his dog while it does it business or to get a little exercise of sorts. I've never heard of an ordinance that prevents dogs from being tethered at all, but that would be what could happen when non-dog owners make the dog laws.

4pack

by 4pack on 24 April 2007 - 16:04

I can't believe a dog person could "understand" spraying a dog in the face with a hose. If it's your dog, fine, have at it! My dog on my property doing it's job to alert, doesn't deserve that treatment. I can honestly say my dogs do not bark non stop. We have one of those very close by and it bugs the crap out of me. I have an e-collar and I do use it when I feel too much barking is going on, without due cause. My dogs do not lunge at the fence, try to jump it, dig under it or anything like that. They bark maybe 5-6 times depending on who or what it is and then, if they don't stop, I go outside and see what the issue is. 9x's out of 10 I can tell you who or what they are barking at by the bark. I know they need exersize if they start barking at my own cat crossing the fence line. At the slightest jingle of dog tags coming up the street they go nuts, it stops as soon as the dogs are past my house. Certain people get barked at walking by and others do not. Anybody who walks up on my property to the backyard fence, gets barked at, family, friends or not. My daughter and I are the only ones who are given a free bark pass, so to speak. My mother, granparents, and clients will all get the show of teeth and snarles if they walk up to the fence. Nobody and I mean NOBODY stands there and takes the lashing they get from the dogs. It sends a flight responce right through you, if you don't know better. The great thing is these dogs are harmless outside the fence. My Blaketty blank blank neighbor could come up and pet them, if I had them out in the yard or was walking by. Daily they soak my daycare kids in doggie drool, from the back of my SUV. The kids love em and the dogs like the attention they get from the children. Back in their kennel, the kids and the dogs both know, it's back to business and if they walk up to the dogs again, they are going to bark. It's quite simple really, in kennel, bark and protect, out of kennel, nice doggie. They are my alarm system, they are dogs, I expect them to bark. On the other hand, I like peace and quiet, just like the next guy. As far as kids sqeeling like stuck pigs all day! It's true, they are worse than dogs. Thats why I respectfully keep my kids inside until 10am when I know my neighbors are all up. They don't stay out for more than and hour at a time and I'm on them as hard as I am my dogs to keep it down. Lemme just say, the dogs are easier to train!

shasta

by shasta on 24 April 2007 - 17:04

If you're talking about my post where I said I understand a neighbor WANTING to spray a dog in the face for barking, I understand your opinion but I am allowed to want to spray the pita neighbor dog all I want:-) Never once did I say I actually DO spray her in the face, I only said I can understand WANTING to. If you are keeping your dogs under control and quiet, and they're doing an alert job which you check out and keep under control it's one thing. My own protection dogs are allowed that courtesy. Bark as they need to. But every butterfly floating past the yard is not a threat and therefore not deserving of being allowed to go crazy. MY neighbors letting their dog sit in the backyard loose where she can stare into my yard all day every day and bark any time a bird moves is another. My own personal dogs cannot enjoy the backyard without her aggressively attacking the fence, and I can't step outside my door. It'd be one thing for her to alert, and then be told to stop when the threat is not real (I don't even look in her direction, just walk quietly to the other side of my yard half the time) but for her to stand up there and bark for hours on end is another. So yes, I can honestly say I WANT to spray her dead in the face with a hose. Whose fault is that? her owners that let her stand and do it for hours on end. This is not just alert barking. It is annoying, aggressive, and constant. the dog is friendly outside of the setting. I've housesat for them. But to be forced to endure hours of endless barking any time anybody moves is another. I allow my own dogs to bark when there's a threat, or perceived threat, but not just sit there and not allow anyone to go in their own yard (not mine) for hours on end is not tolerable either. They are allowed to bark, then told to shut it after a reasonable time period. I Have them wear collars if I'm going to be gone for an extended period during the day, and bring them in early in the evening and don't let them out until late morning. but even then, if I let them out to go potty at lets say midnight, they still have to endure the endless barking of the annoying dog next door. THAT is what makes me feel like I WANT to spray her in the face. So while you may not understand how a dog person can say they want to spray a dog in the face for barking, if you lived next door to my neighbors dog, you probably would think the same way.

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 24 April 2007 - 17:04

I can sure relate to that, Shasta! When I was a kid, my best friend's neighbours had this super-annoying chihuahua that charged the fence, yipping up a storm any time you were out in the backyard. Fortunately, they didn't leave him out all day, but if he saw you out there, he wouldn't stop barking until you went inside. And give me a big dog's bark anyday over the yipyipyipyip of a little yap dog! He lived to be nearly 20. Rumor has it that someone finally poisoned the little rat, and much as I love dogs, I can't say I blame them!

4pack

by 4pack on 24 April 2007 - 19:04

My issue is advocating the spraying of the dogs. I don't want others getting this "great" idea in their heads. We must remember, they are animals, we are the smart humans. Taking a walk to your neighbors front door and addressing the issue is what needs to be done, for the situation to get any better. Maybe make a gift of a bark collar? Don't take your frustration out on the dog, when the owner is the idiot that lets him get away with it. If your too chicken to confront your neighbor, your patience is going to have to make the adjustment. My neighbor gripes when my sprikler hits her car, but I have never had her address a problem about my dogs barking. I guess I'm suppossed to get a clue from her screaming tyrades? Those I treat like bad behaviour from a pup, I don't react outwardly, even though inside, I am choking the life out of her. If I went outside while she was in her screaming rage, both of us would act emotionally and it would get quite ugly I'm sure.





 


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