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by kitbaby39 on 02 March 2022 - 21:03
Hello All,
I am not sure if this is the right place to post this but I am definitely not a breeder (please let me know if I post at the wrong place). I just want one or two males puppies. I saw this ad:
https://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/classifieds.viewad?adid=290476
It seems like this will be a good litter/deal. I am not sure if anybody is around MD/PA/VA area that can be partnered with me and we will split all the costs (or I can pay some extra). I just want one or two males from this litter (hope there will be several) and you can keep the rest including the mother or keep all the profits if you decide to sell them. We can take about the conditions if you want. I have a big horse barn in Maryland that we can breed at my place or if you want to breed at your place, that's perfectly fine too.
I am just falling in love with the father. What a beauty!
https://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2980752-zorro-de-la-madonina?_v=20220227194036
Best regards,
Tom.

by Hundmutter on 03 March 2022 - 02:03
Whoa, Tom ! Just, "Whoa!". Stop and ask yourself this : why would somebody be trying to sell an in-whelp bitch, and as a "package" with whatever puppies she (might) produce ? Especially if she is, as claimed, the 'best of the best' in Macedonia, a different country from the seller ?(though only @ 'SG1' I notice, and yet already a proven brood). Have you searched this website and seen just how many complaints are carried about Serbian scams, over recent years ? Have you met or researched the advertiser, this Serbian breeder who gets his female impregnated but does not want to keep the resultant litter to run on or sell ?
OK you like the pic of the dog named as the sire of the litter - do you KNOW that he definitely is the daddy ? Or that the advertised bitch has been anywhere near him, let alone mated by him ?
Have you seen this dog in the flesh, met him in real life ? Or the female advertised ?
Just my opinion (though I know it will be shared by many here): would not touch this with a twenty-feet pole.

by DuganVomEichenluft on 03 March 2022 - 07:03
Stay away. You can find what you want here in the states.
As the old saying goes, if it's too good to be true, it most likely is.

by Q Man on 03 March 2022 - 09:03
~Bob~
by kitbaby39 on 03 March 2022 - 09:03
Thank you very very much all for the advices. I haven never thought of these. I almost pull the trigger. I am glad that I asked.
Best regards,
Tom.

by Hundmutter on 03 March 2022 - 11:03
Tom, not every Serbian breeder is going to be a wrong 'un, and we know that. But what Dugan posts is true - there are nice pups being bred all the time, much closer to home - and with the difficulties placed on flights etc, first by Covid and now by the very tense situation in Eastern Europe, is it really worth taking any risks, for what looks like a nice reasonably priced purchase but may not turn out to be ?
We raise these questions because we have seen people caught out, so many times now. Like Bob says, doing plenty of research is always something anybody should be advised to do. Know what you want and why you want it; and what you'd find acceptable in seeing a litter & the way it is being reared; these things are always a better way to proceed - even with a source just up the road from yourself, never mind one that's a long way away overseas.And there are even more questions to be asked - about getting the paperwork; about proving that health testing has been done, for starters.
If you want to talk through or ask anything about what sort of pup you need and what you want to do with it, if anything, in the way of training or competitions, or simply about raising it as a great companion dog, please don't hesitate to come back and post questions on here, now you have found us. We love to hear how people get on. And see pictures of pups ! Best of luck.
by kitbaby39 on 03 March 2022 - 12:03
Best regards,
Tom.
by GSCat on 03 March 2022 - 20:03
There are some very good, reputable breeders in the U.S. that produce healthy GSD that look a lot like the one in the photo.
What are you looking for in a dog(s)?
What purpose(s) do you have for the dog(s)?
If you want to breed, what are your goals (i.e., what kind of purpose(s) do you want to breed the puppies for)? GSD have wide-ranging uses and various temperaments and activity levels are good for some things and not others, and other temperaments and activity levels are good for other things, and not others. Working line vs. show line is only the beginning.
Have you bred dogs before? Are you experienced with the GSD as a breed? Know about GSD-specific health and other issues? Training? Puppy raising? Have $$$$$$ for veterinary care and stuff that can happen to the bitch and/or puppies before and after birth? Time to supervise the bitch with her puppies? Some are not good mothers for various reasons and need help/supervision to ensure the puppies live.
Lots more questions to ask, but the answers to these will help you figure out which breeder(s) to contact looking for a puppy(ies)/dog(s), and whether or not ready to take on responsibility for a litter.
Good luck!
by kitbaby39 on 04 March 2022 - 16:03
Thank you all for the good advices.
Best regards,
Tom.
by GSCat on 05 March 2022 - 20:03
Guess I misunderstood. I'm sorry if I offended.
There are some good breeders in your neck of the woods that produce healthy GSD puppies and will help match you to an appropriate one for your lifestyle and preferences (activity level, etc.). You can research specific breeders here and ask questions like you did (great move, by the way) so you don't get taken for a ride.
Some breeders will also recommend trainer(s)/facility(ies) in your area. Basic obedience and house manners as a puppy will save lots of grief and $$$$$$$$ later. Don't do board-and-train or drop-off training.
Hope you find the puppy(ies) of your dreams.
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