what would you fear the most in being confronted by a dog; - Page 2

Fawn,  I would almost bet that when Ciberus is doing that stalking, he is either not seen by Max yet or he is off at a diagonal angle to Max's center line.   That is normal play behavior. 

Not real clear what the goal of the exercise is here. The average Joe perpinstein, I would guess would be very intimidated by either display. I would disagree with madam frost that you most likely, looking at a bluffer.

"Please analyze the dogs drives and intent and which dog would you prefer genetically"

The intent of Dog A & B is to follow rules. Each gave tells as they entered my space.

Dog A was trained by a sport training who switched to blank______ training. The dog is trained to follow rules and preforms as directed. The dogs drives really cant be judged here. The trainers drive's where flashy.

Dog B was trained by someone outside of sport philosophy and does not have the shock and awe of flashy presentation. The dog is trained to follow rules and preforms as directed. The dogs drives really cant be judged here. The trainers drives where purposeful.

Each preformed as directed and trained.  Each genetically equal for task.

 

I suspect vk4gsd's goal here is, which makes an average person crap the jeans faster. A snapping spitter or a, move and I'll drop you. I would guess a spitter for the average joe. :)

 

 

Bzcz, many times Max does see her.   I totally agree it is play behavior and a pleasure to watch.   As these are animals though, most play behavior has a survival instinctive goal. 

I do see Gigante's point.  The 1st one will probably be the one that has the average Joe panicking.   I do not know if the average person would see the 2nd dog for what it really was.

Gigante, if the point was to see which person will make a bigger pile when he sees dog A or dog B...yes, you are absolutely right...

and i agree it was conflicting info especially with a "note: both dogs are untitled and not trained"

So maybe the question should have been posted which dog would intimidate you the most....I guess unless vk clarifies...i am SOL... LOL

 

" both dogs are certified to locate and alert without engagement "

A dog like dog A is trained, I have never seen an untrained dog behaving like this ( doing a routine ), that said both of them were willing to follow "the bad guy" on its own into the building, doing their job.

What would I fear the most? - The quiet one.

Which dog would I prefer genetically? - I´d test them. Are they willing to fight or do they back away when attacked?
 

Gotta ask.  Why is everyone picking dog B?

 

Just a gut feeling. A "silent" dog is difficult to read, but in both cases I´d like to see "proof"....

For people who are familiar with sch training and who recognize the trained routine of dog A, there is a familiarity and predicabity in the dog's behavior through the person's experience. The same people who have "been around" and recognize the dog A routine, will also be aware of the posture and demeanor of dog B that is probably acting out of instinct or genetics and there fore is less predictable...the dog may run if seriously challenged, or it may be dead serious and follow through with a devastating attack. I would need to know what that dog's reaction to a challenge would be before choosing him. The other dog, as Susie pointed out, was self possessed enough to act on his training without the backup/security of the handler. I like that in a dog, so basing on the last two sentences in my post, I choose dog A. But I would probably fear dog Bmore, as I could possibly give dog A a down command to interrupt his behavior. I know vk said neither are trained, but it is not normal for a dog to do a hold and bark without training. It takes a lot of work.

It keeps coming up so to clear up, dogs had no sport training                      

 

 note: both dogs are untitled and have not had any sport training ---- both dogs are certified to locate and alert without engagement                   >>>>  Dogs ARE trained.

 

 

 

Hell that's easy then NEITHER.  They are certified to not engage.