Game Changer! - Page 31

And spleens are cheap !

you have been to Asia or was it India?

Yep, Bush should have been tried as a war criminal. They have ensured that any of our prisoners will be treated with the upmost respect, eye roll. Yet, the republicans cried bloody murder when a few pics were taken in Iran of our captives. Imagine what Trump will do. Shudder.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/28/cia-photographed-naked-detainees

Odd. I would say the liberal view today, embraces humiliation as their very favorite, GO TO choice for attack.

Humiliation? lol. Like being photographed naked against your will? In case you missed it that is a war crime and sexual abuse. And when our prisoners start showing up in naked pics I bet you will be one of the first screaming bloody murder.

 

Pretty sure that was a 'bloody' murder....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3512288/ISIS-carries-Good-Friday-crucifixion-Indian-Catholic-priest-Yemen-kidnapped-three-weeks-ago.html

 

 

Bloody murder is when captives are put on their knees to have their heads' cut off.....all while being videoed and pictures and videos plastered around the web. 

Joan has a much better grasp on what is truly, "bloody murder". There certainly is no comparison between the damages of a crucifixion, beheading, or even repeated rapes, and someone taking a picture of your naked body to provide proof of your captive condition before being handed over to another country for detention. Pffft, again there is the stretch in the telling--- everything in that article is "alleged" and "potential" and "unclear".

You try so hard sometimes to blame GWG for every ill known to mankind! How not to roll my eyes, sometimes!

I guess you've never heard of anyone being strip searched by customs, either? Talk about humiliation. Humiliation must have a correlating scale for decibels, as one is screaming bloody murder, then?

Now, to bring this back to the current politics— I would say Ted Cruz PAC supporters did cross the line attempting to humiliate Trump with his wife's naked body into the public arena. I do think families of candidates should be off limits. If they are criminal, that would be the exception.

As distasteful as such a humiliation is, (ask Hulk Hogan--I guess?), it isn't a life threatening reality, and he proved it is recompensed by big money lawsuit judgements. Can't say that when your head is rolling around in a basket somewhere on the dusty ground.

So, then you support water boarding and other forms of torture? Good to know. This wasn't just pics to identify, mug shots are taken everyday in this country to help ID criminals. None of them in the nude. This was pure and simple, a form of degradation. We signed the Geneva convention, ISIS didn't, pretty easy and when our POWs are treated worse than this don't cry about it.

First off, I don't have an informed enough opinion on torture for information, where to draw the line, so please be kind enough not to put words into my mouth. I certainly think it is good for our side to be able to get much needed information from our enemies if that means it will save lives for our side. Beyond that? I am just glad it isn't me making the decision. I would suck at it.

 

It is not publicly known how many people, overwhelmingly but not exclusively men, were caught in the CIA’s web of so-called “extraordinary renditions”, extra-judicial transfers of detainees to foreign countries, many of which practiced even more brutal forms of torture than the US came to adopt. Human rights groups over the years have identified at least 50 people the CIA rendered, going back to Bill Clinton’s presidency.

The above is from your article. See how it applies to what I wrote, and not to what you wrote! This isn't about a police mug shot for jaywalking. When you bring up the Geneva convention, please be a little more detailed at what part you are claiming was violated? I have no idea and am not about to look it up since you are the expert here, on this.

I really can't follow your argument very well, that you think it is fair of ISIS to get a pass on brutality of prisoner treatment because they didn't sign a human rights treatment agreement on the rules of war? Are you freakin' kidding me?