Serious Breeders - Page 22

and here we go again...

ValK, all I can tell you is you should have asked around here more, you could have saved yourself a great deal of time. There are plenty of people on this forum who aren't breeders, either, but who do know who's breeding GSDs that aren't 'oversized lap dogs' or 'IPO clowns'--although a well-bred GSD with all of the appropriate traits of the breed should [and can] easily be an oversized lap dog when the situation calls for one, and an IPO 'clown' when the time is right for that...yet still rip the ass-end out of a pair of jeans being worn by someone who's trying to harm someone the dog is responsible for protecting as necessary.

It's not 'patriotic feelings'--just the simple facts that there aren't any genetics in Europe that haven't already been imported into the US and Canada as well.

hexe, your suggestion sounds reasonable but unfortunately not applicable in my case.

remote purchase, relying on pick of someone, whom i don't known and he/she don't know me well and my preferences toward the dog's traits?
i really don't want to go through all hassles of wrong selection. the only dog in my life was not picked by me, was my first pup, gifted to me at age 9, after prolonged annoyance to my parents.

secondly, my preferences was classified in here as "neurotic, junk yard dog", which led me to think, the breeder, whom i will ask, could come to same conclusion.

third, i haven't seen many people, who can figure out from a litter of pups, aged 3 to 8 weeks, the pup, who does distinct in showing low self preservation instinct, paired with good defense trait.
it's not the same as hunt or aggression traits. such characteristic isn't very common and seems never been popular in commercial breeding, thus typical breeders just not familiar with it.

You want low self preservation, but good defensive traits?

Reliya, you have never seen this kind of dogs?

------ nevermind-----not worth getting into this.

Just can't help it. What you describe is a fearbiter, a mess, a junkyard dog. What I'm guessing you want is a dog that won't back down from a fight with forward aggression and a good amount of defense. And yes, I know exactly which puppy I'd pick. I'd pick the one that is cool, independent and aloof. The one that doesn't need you. The one that has so much confidence he takes onto the world. A bit of a jerk maybe. Thats the type of pup you can't go wrong with.

 

 

I'm still trying to learn the language of all you career dog people, but I thought "self preservation" and "defense" meant the same thing.

I looked at what you said a few pages back. Low threshold and high defense. These dogs are still bred today, but they're not popular.

This is not the language of career dog people. Believe me.

If you give this description to any breeder, even those in it for 30 years will tell you that he describes a nervebag and fearbiter. I can only assume what he is trying to say because english doesn't seem to be his first language.

I meant terminology.

Nerves. Drives. Thresholds. Defense. Etc.

Seems to mean different things to different people.

Generally people have a good idea of what you are talking about but the degree of what a low threshold is, is subjective for example.
Same with Spitfire, or strong dog. Whats a strong dog to you, may not be a strong dog to me.