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by Richard Medlen on 15 September 2014 - 21:09

Well, have some you GSDCA/WDA members been privileged enough to see a translated copy of the "not so deep-dark secret"  agreement.  I know it needed translation but how long does it take to accomplish such a translation? Am I safe to estimate 30 to 45 minutes? At worst case scenario,  I might be 2 to 3 hours if the document is 4-6 pages in length. Hopefully, to insure verifiability, once some one in the hierarchy of the GSDCA/WDA thinks anyone actually has a right to know what is really going on, the translated and non-translated renditions (for comparison purposes)  of this agreement will both be made available for at least the membership to see.  


Cutaway

by Cutaway on 15 September 2014 - 22:09

I am more curious than anything on the matter. I am totally speculating, but would have to believe that the WDA/WUSV agreement now states something to the effect that the WUSV recognizes the WDA as its own entity, providing the US with 3 avenues to the SV and its ratings. The only downside currently see is that 'staple' shows/trials could become more watered down in terms of attendance and entrants to these events. But who knows, maybe if these organizations space their main events out across the US more, they may get more support than they do now, I think these two Sieger shows coming up will tell the story. Cuz at the End of the day, the WUSV is not going to deal with the US drama nor are they going to make a decision for the US. We are no where close to having the UScA become unified with either GSDCA or WDA and again in my speculation, the GSDCA and WDA are not going to hug it out and have a beer while they make up. This new adventure, along with the current litigation of the WDA and GSDCA will make for some interesting reads and conversations throughout 2015.


by bzcz on 15 September 2014 - 22:09

I agree with Cutaway but with the caveat of how does RSV 2000 fit into all of this mess.  Are they too going to want in on the qualification trial?

 


by Unknown on 17 September 2014 - 13:09

RSV2000 is not a WUSV member and can not be involved in the Qual trial at all, so that is not an issue. They have just started their own RSV Global.


Dog1

by Dog1 on 17 September 2014 - 13:09

Unknown,

The WDA is not a member either and the WUSV has aparrantly signed an agreement that allows a non member organization to participate in all WUSV services. If you read what the WDA posted and what the WDA posted is true that an agreement was signed a week or so ago. The agreement makes two statements. One it is a continuation of the relationship with the GSDCA and two, it is seperate from the GSDCA. So the agreement is in effect with or without the link to the GSDCA's WUSV affiliation. Wouldn't you agree this sets a precedence other clubs can use to gain access too?

The RSV or any other organization similar can plop the WDA hundegram on the WUSV desk and say we want in too and we are entitled to it as we have the same ideals, concepts, member alignment, etc. as the WDA. If you did it for them, you need to do it for us.


by Unknown on 18 September 2014 - 19:09

I do not know anything about the agreement signed between the WUSV and the WDA. There are a couple of facts I do know.

The letter claims the agreement was signed on Sept 6th.

The WUSV meeting was Sept 8th.

The GSDCA was in attendence, no one from the WDA was in attendence of the WUSV meeting. (I was in attendence also)

At the meeting 2 new "sponsored members" were voted into the WUSV, Neither was the WDA

The WDA was never mentioned at all in the meeting

There has been no offical announcement of this agreement from the WUSV to other WUSV members in this country.

The WUSV in the past has asked USCA to stay out of this mess, we have, and to continue on as usual until the courts rule one way or the other and that's what we intend to do. Until the courts rule the agreement and "connection" to the WUSV still exsists, so I assume that's why the agreement can be made and why RSV2000 would not be able to.

 

 Until we see the actual contract or get official notice of something changing from the WUSV we will just go ahead with business as usual.


Cutaway

by Cutaway on 18 September 2014 - 19:09

What Unknown said, is exactly what i was told last night at training by another club member. 


by Richard Medlen on 18 September 2014 - 19:09

Does anyone other than me think it highly unusual that the WUSV would make a deal with some club in a country with two bonafide members of the WUSV and not discuss it with, or inform, either of its legitiment member clubs of its dealings?  More confusing is that apparently neither of the bonafide member organizations from this country received the courtesy of  a copy or notification of the agreement.  Last I heard, the GSDCA and USCA both pay dues proportioned to the size of their memberships to help financially support the WUSV.  Does anyone know whether the GSDCA-WDA pays any dues to the WUSV?  

I find it very strange that properly credentialed officials from the only two bonafide and legitimate WUSV organizations in this country were in Germany when and while the apparent deal was being cut and apparently neither Herren Henke nor Lux bothered to discuss the action with either of them.


GSD4dogs

by GSD4dogs on 18 September 2014 - 19:09

My assumption is that the agreement simply assures that the WDA can do business as usual until the court case is done. It is the WUSV not taking sides in US matters.


by Richard Medlen on 18 September 2014 - 20:09

GSD4dogs:

That would make since except that the court case settlement restriction you mentioned to the agreement was not stated in the rendition supplied in the Hundegram and provide us earlier Victory.  I am still surprised at the lack of information provided to the only two legitimate WUSV organizations in this country.






 


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