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by vk4gsd on 19 May 2016 - 10:05
Fair is fair that is a lot tougher than the "real" dog crowd that choose all the terms, rules and scenarios to produce a few snippets of footage in 20-30 years of work all conveniently filmed in private.

by GSDfan on 19 May 2016 - 10:05
I don't have a video that would make you happy GEE, I train for PSA, I have mostly PSA videos which are on a suit with a "dancing decoy", not every second of training is taped to catch all the hidden equipment action outside of the vehicle, sorry.
I don't specifically train or make videos for brags I have nothing to prove to you. And whatever I find to post I'm sure you will go out of your way to find something wrong with anyway...but I will look
by Gee on 19 May 2016 - 10:05
@vk4 - Baloney - same rules, different field, same visual ques - equipment, same game, same routine. (or a very similar routine)
Would have to be an extremely crap dog to be put of by the public watching it perform it's routine.
So if you think that is a tough test - then good for you, oh and another thing - you will NEVER, EVER see those dogs on that public platform working without huge visual ques and lame pressure - EVER.
Regards
Gee

by GSDfan on 19 May 2016 - 11:05
lt's old but found a muzzle video. I can't post any Police stuff without getting myself jammed up...which I won't do for you
by Gee on 19 May 2016 - 11:05
@GSD Fan - apologies re cross wires re you doing seminars.
Just to clarify - I have a lot of respect for PSA, do I think a very good competition dog, in any discipline, can cut the mustard in ANY environment - absolutely.
Regards
Gee
by Gee on 19 May 2016 - 11:05
@GSDFan.
Good vid - liked the decoy's acting, and v nice dog.
Especially liked your dog's work ethic when man went to ground.
Good stuff - and appreciate you posting that, civil credit, were civil credits due.
That type of training ticks a box on the civil scale.
Regards
Gee
by joanro on 19 May 2016 - 11:05
by Gee on 19 May 2016 - 11:05
I should also say - those who have never tried proofing or using the muzzle to further develop fighting ability in the dog - may not be overly impressed when watching a dog work a man whilst muzzled.
This is very tough training, many, many dogs will instantly become a shadow of there former self when asked to engage when muzzled.
No matter - how long you prepare a dog in the muzzle away from engagement, if they don't have the back bone you will soon find out. (you can take a horse to water springs to mind)
Regards
Gee
by vk4gsd on 19 May 2016 - 11:05
Would have to be an extremely crap dog to be put of by the public watching it perform it's routine."
No you don't get it, the rules are the same but unlike you the handler didn't get to choose them to only show their good side.
You make your own rules and your own game to protect yourself from the possibility of losing, you create yourself as king of your back yard.
Anyway the scenarios on the day are unknown to the handler I believe in PSA. Thats more pressure than you expose yourself to, so not same routine at all.
You choose your own decoy in your own private venue, much less pressure.
You have nothing to fail, if you don't get a good 30 second vid today get it next Wednesday. Nothing like the pressure of a trial where you work to someone else's schedule and actually have something to publicly fail.
Have you ever competed in any competition in any venue?
Outside of dogs I know guys with some good skills that never had the balls to put it on the line in open competition. They become angry jealous has beens that never were.
It takes more balls to risk losing in public in open comp than to scale to the pinnacle of your back yard.

by GSDfan on 19 May 2016 - 11:05
Also found a video of hidden sleeve. Not in the context you want to see it, but again it was training not a scenario.
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