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by Jenni78 on 06 December 2011 - 21:12
LOL, Beetree.
RIP, poor sweet puppy.
I fail to see how dying during surgery is the breeder's fault, unless the breeder was the one anesthetizing and operating.
RIP, poor sweet puppy.
I fail to see how dying during surgery is the breeder's fault, unless the breeder was the one anesthetizing and operating.

by starrchar on 06 December 2011 - 21:12
The pup dying is not the breeder's fault...directly. BUT, she did produce a pup with the flaw that required this pup to have surgery and so in my opinion, from a moral and ethical standpoint the breeder should at least refund the purchase price. I would definitely not want another pup from this breeder. Bless the puppy owner for doing all she could.

by Judy P on 06 December 2011 - 22:12
Many years ago I bred and showed Beagles. Both Cherry Eye and Demo are not uncommon in the breed and there is really no way to determine which puppies could develop it. There are no tests to check for the problems so how can any breeder guarantee these problems will not develop.
If I had bred this puppy I would have gladly taken it back and refunded the money then treated the puppy and rehomed it. I am sorry to hear the poor puppy died during surgery, sadly it happens in veterinary medicine as well as human medicine that some patients will die during surgery. Some vets it happens more often than others. I do some 400 plus spays and neuters a year through our rescue and I cannot remember the last time I lost a puppy, I think it may have been a Beagle puppy with a cleft lip.
If I had bred this puppy I would have gladly taken it back and refunded the money then treated the puppy and rehomed it. I am sorry to hear the poor puppy died during surgery, sadly it happens in veterinary medicine as well as human medicine that some patients will die during surgery. Some vets it happens more often than others. I do some 400 plus spays and neuters a year through our rescue and I cannot remember the last time I lost a puppy, I think it may have been a Beagle puppy with a cleft lip.
by SitasMom on 06 December 2011 - 23:12
beetree
i have offered her one of my puppies, but she says GSD are too big, too active and shed too much......i cannot argue with facts........
once she's had time to heal, i'll try to find a healthy puppy for her - maybe a rat terrier or or italian greyhound....or maybe a skipkey (sp), or something.
i have offered her one of my puppies, but she says GSD are too big, too active and shed too much......i cannot argue with facts........
once she's had time to heal, i'll try to find a healthy puppy for her - maybe a rat terrier or or italian greyhound....or maybe a skipkey (sp), or something.

by Jenni78 on 06 December 2011 - 23:12
Schipperke
by beetree on 07 December 2011 - 00:12
I'm sure your connections will come in handy, Sitasmom. Something will come up.
by SitasMom on 07 December 2011 - 01:12
thanks for the correct spelling.....its a really cool little breed... spunky yet not yappy.....
she wants to cry for a while longer, maybe she'll be ready by spring.
she complained at length about house training, so i'm thinking that an older, already house trained pup might be a better selection for her.
there are so many dogs on petfinder and similar sites, i'm sure we'll find something for her.
by hexe on 07 December 2011 - 07:12
"spunky yet not yappy...."
??? Are you sure you're talking about *live* Schipperkes????
'Cause while they're certainly no Sheltie, they didn't guard canal boats and the shops that lined the canal with their hefty size....being suspicious of strangers, barking, bouncing high into the air on their spring-like legs, and bounding after *anything* that moves are among their chief activities in life! They are absolutely adorable little buggers, but they're as diligent a watchdog as one could hope to find--and *extremely* reactive to stimuli they find suspicious. That's part of the reason there are generally quite a number of Schipps in rescue channels...as with most breeds, they're not for everyone, and anyone considering adding a Schipp to their life needs to REALLY understand the breed, know what they're getting into, and be committed to doing the work that will be necessary to ensure that the dog doesn't become 'the neighbor from hell'.
Rat terrier, also high energy, barky, busy.
Italian greyhound, pug, French Bulldog, all quite contect to be a housedog of leisure. The Pug and the French Bully can bring the spunky when it's called for, but otherwise, they're more than happy to permit you to be their humble servent. These might be better choices for your sister.
??? Are you sure you're talking about *live* Schipperkes????
'Cause while they're certainly no Sheltie, they didn't guard canal boats and the shops that lined the canal with their hefty size....being suspicious of strangers, barking, bouncing high into the air on their spring-like legs, and bounding after *anything* that moves are among their chief activities in life! They are absolutely adorable little buggers, but they're as diligent a watchdog as one could hope to find--and *extremely* reactive to stimuli they find suspicious. That's part of the reason there are generally quite a number of Schipps in rescue channels...as with most breeds, they're not for everyone, and anyone considering adding a Schipp to their life needs to REALLY understand the breed, know what they're getting into, and be committed to doing the work that will be necessary to ensure that the dog doesn't become 'the neighbor from hell'.
Rat terrier, also high energy, barky, busy.
Italian greyhound, pug, French Bulldog, all quite contect to be a housedog of leisure. The Pug and the French Bully can bring the spunky when it's called for, but otherwise, they're more than happy to permit you to be their humble servent. These might be better choices for your sister.
by workingdogz on 07 December 2011 - 13:12
Schipperkes are usually referred to as "Mini GSD's" by alot of the fanciers of the breed.
The GOOD/well bred ones have character and much temperment like a good GSD.
The words forward, pushy and strong willed come to mind when I think of the ones we have seen.
I remember years back at an AKC show, a breeder/handler had her purse in the crate with her little female, and let me tell you, that female was a nasty tough little bitch! She would have put a lot of GSD to shame. They shedshedshed, and yes, as Hexe wrote, bark bark bark. We have decided when we are too old/feeble to handle GSD, we will seek out a couple good Schip's..
The GOOD/well bred ones have character and much temperment like a good GSD.
The words forward, pushy and strong willed come to mind when I think of the ones we have seen.
I remember years back at an AKC show, a breeder/handler had her purse in the crate with her little female, and let me tell you, that female was a nasty tough little bitch! She would have put a lot of GSD to shame. They shedshedshed, and yes, as Hexe wrote, bark bark bark. We have decided when we are too old/feeble to handle GSD, we will seek out a couple good Schip's..
by SitasMom on 07 December 2011 - 13:12
any suggestions on a quiet breed of dog that's under 40 lbs when adult?
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