Does anyone no how INGODDS ALBERTS bitework? - Page 5

And preston maybe you right after watching few clips there were worst dogs in that show, so maybe I shouldn't be so hard on Albert, I have to say I was kind of dissapointed on performance some of those dogs, I expect more.

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I guess I have a question - if this dog, at the age of 5, has a medical issue that prevents it from working competently, why is it still being bred too?  Shouldn't there be the consideration that he will sire dogs that supposedly bite good when young but are unable to work competently by the age of 5?  I am not trying to stir up trouble, just stating my thoughts after reviewing the posts in this thread.  I don't have a GSD so I don't have a dog in this fight so to speak ;-)

Any good male dog can develop prostatitus with no genetic issue, just due to low grade infection.  Seems that the most masculine males are more prone to it.  If this is the problem it is important to get it treated because it can set off secondary issues such as inflammatory problems and it can go chronic.  I have no idea why this issue hasn't received suitable attention in the past.  I doubt it is a genetic problem.  If you want an absolute sleeve eater understand the liabilities you take on, especially if you produce puppies like this and sell them inappropriately.  Some total sleeve eaters are not safe family dogs and do not produce such.  One total sleeve eater that has a reputation for being calm and safe around children and strangers when loose is V-Eagle of Eichenluft, and if bred properly he is able to produce dogs with temperament like himself.  But he is an exception rather than the rule for most sleeve eaters. From what I hear most of the temperament of Albert's progeny is good.  Certainly in general they are attractive puppies that grow up to lookand act quite nice.  

If you want a BSP top Sch competitor, best buy one that is out of a top BSP winner who has a proven track record producing alpha males that are non-feral gangster dogs. But then you better be ready to assume the added liability they pose.  I guess a good rule of thumb is when you see a BSP dog muzzled just before he goes in the ring, he is most likely a true gangster.  Don't expect this out of most zuchtschau GSDs. Most folks who want GSDs for their families do not want gangsters, but rather easy going, calm, attractive, black and red, GSDs that are naturally protective of their own territory and family.  There is nothing wrong with breeding, showing or producing this type of GSDs. 

Go back and re-read Capt. von Stephanitz's book.  I didn't read anything there demanding gangster GSDs or even sleeve eaters.  But there was much emphasis on GSDs being docile at the end of the day after working with master (sheepherding), and laying around with fawns, rabbits and children without harming them.  The Captain wanted a balanced, rock solid, sound, calm GSD with natural territorial donminance and ability to defend when appropriate. I don't think he would have liked gangster dogs.  It is my understanding that Albert wasn't shown in the working male class at Lexington, only the progeny class. If he did any bitework there I missed him because I didn't see him do any courage test.

If you want an absolute sleeve eater that is a good looking zuchtschau GSD, get a top bred male puppy out of V Amon vom Patriot, who is listed in this database.

http://pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/445210.html

This is a post from the UK on Albert.   Just like to add a few things on Albert of our experience meeting the dog.  We saw Albert in Germany around November 2005.  I absolutely fell in love with the dog, he was beautiful.  At that time from a very reliable source his bitework was excellent and there was no problem with him.  His temperment was excellent as I took Albert and stood him up etc... and yes even gave him a kiss on his head as I adored him, as we do his brother Agassi.  The only concern to us was his hips,  at the time we was thinking of buying him.  We still have copies of his X Ray plates with us, and we took them to a top Vet in the UK and he said they would come back from our UK Hip System, BVA,  around the score of 10-12, which is excellent.  Unfortunately our personal circumstances at the time could not allow us to have Albert.  I regret not having Albert with us, we love the dog.  I think you should all be very lucky to have Albert over there, as when we saw him he was an absolutely quality male and I am sure he will produce.

Kerry

Kennel Shernaa      

Preston do you know where I can find working videos of that dog? Absolutely beatiful.

No, snaiper, I don't.  Sorry.  I heard he was one tough hombre and had very nice conformation with superb pigment.  A real sleeve eater and one worth researching.  This boy is pure working line breeding with showline looks.  That makes him very rare indeed.

Amon      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPLNP0ZJhwg

Thanks Deeswolf.  Looks like V Amon lives up to the rumors.  One awesome GSD.