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senta

by senta on 06 January 2008 - 20:01

Often I look at myself the pictures in this database. I now very often saw that with litters in the first days and also later than document newsprint is used. Does somebody have an idea for which that to be good can? I actually think that newsprint is very poisonous because of the pressure with many colors, in the long run pure chemistry. Who already once in printering it was knows that printer color is most poisonous. Why is newsprint thus used for the puppy nest??? Does someone have an idea?

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 06 January 2008 - 20:01

Ive been using newpaper for 35 years with cocker litters and germans also....no poison   carbon is not poisonours...the pee and poop your dog would waller in is far worse   the pups are not going to be on paper very long anyway...the bag your dog food is bagged in is as dangerous as a new paper ......put pups on wire with newpaper inthe tray ata three weeks old...some people raise pups outside on the dirt....how poisonous and dirty and dangerous do you think that is.?????

You are going to be changing out newspaper so fast they wont haave time to absorb any of it.....also  Farmers use newspapers to line the baskets of the crops they pick also and take to farmers markets.......apples, peaches,,,tomatoes, and all East Texas small farmers pick up bundles of THe Thrify Nickel    every week to line their wicker buckets.....

a bushel and a peck    lol


Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 06 January 2008 - 20:01

I use carpet samples. Not only are they absorbent and easy for the pups to navigate on,  they look nice in pix too. At $1.00 or so each, when they get soiled, I toss them in the dumpster. SS

 


Bob-O

by Bob-O on 06 January 2008 - 20:01

I cannot speak for all countries, but most commercial newspaper printing in the U.S.A. is done on low-grade recycled paper with soybean oil-based inks due to strict air emissions guidelines of the U.S.E.P.A..

Most commercial newsprint images and text are printed with black ink. For the vast majority of commercial printers this ink is essentially a formulation made from carbon black and soybean oil. Fairly innoculus stuff. The other primary colours ( blue, yellow, red) involved in process-colour printing are also various pigment compounds that are soybean oil-based.

There are poisonous compounds in some ink colours. Many of the blue inks contain cyanide-a poisonus metal, and some red inks contain cadmium-another poisonous metal. But, these inks are normally used for the glossier printing of coated stock such as the advertisements that are in the weekend newspapers. These inks are "high colour" types and are used sparingly in the commercial world due to their cost. One is much more likely to see these inks in commercial process printing of expensive magazines and the like that have high-colour pictures. Most of us do not use such printed material around puppies as it is slick, coated stock and will not absorb moisture.

So, the newsprint is fairly safe if it is produced stateside. I cannot verify that for other countries.

Regards,

Bob-O


by hodie on 06 January 2008 - 20:01

Inks have a variety of solvents in them and are certainly NOT pure carbon. I personally do not use newspaper for the reason that it gives off solvent vapor and gives me a headache. I use towels and change them repeatedly during every day. It is a lot of work and a lot of washing. 

Most quality foods are bagged in bags that have a different kind of paper, a different kind of lining and inks that do not contact the food.

Is newspaper harmful? Probably not anymore so than the variety of things people get excited about on this forum and think are poisoning them and their dogs. But I choose not to use it. To each his own, but at least know the facts. It is helpful to remember that all substances, ALL, are poisons. It is the dose that makes the difference. But that gets too complicated for most people to think about.


by DeKal on 06 January 2008 - 21:01

Shelly

I use the samples too, but I never put them outside the bedding areas.  I just never wanted the pups to get used to relieving themselves on carpet.

It's been mentioned here before, but I like the 4 ft roles of Rosin paper.  Easy to put down and easy to pick up.  Very absorbant. 


by Wolf359 on 06 January 2008 - 21:01

Well the fact that its said you can wrap a newborn baby (Human) in newspaper in an emergency because it is sterile until touched by human hands should tell you that it is probable OK for a puppy.

Responsible owners will change the paper out i the whelping box 2 or 3 times a day .


senta

by senta on 06 January 2008 - 21:01

@hodie: I agree with you. I did not use ever newspapers. Opposite newspapers I would be very distrustful. I have printering seen... and it am simply like that there it smells extremely after chemistry, which is poisonous colors in each case and which is only partly recycelt paper. For me the use from newsprint is to uncertain. I use cotton - as before one hundred years: -), those to be daily cooked several times, until after puppies outside can (approximately with 3 weeks). Outside they do have everything that they will always have in their life, grass, sand, stones, in each case not concrete. That is natural a large work expended - more work than newspapers to perhaps dispose. Puppies draw up are work in each phase of their life. I cannot recognize the reason for the use of printed on newsprint. Better would be surely then neutral cellulose.I find prints chemically loaded.

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 06 January 2008 - 21:01

You can also go to the newpaper companies and ask for rolls of non printed paper on rolls that they deem not good for printing that are damaged in some way....for years in Galveston Co  I was able to obtain paper rolls by a company that were damaged...I still have one here and we covered it in wallpaper and used it for a table in the den,,,,,put glass on it for a top,,,many uses for discards of some companies....


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 06 January 2008 - 21:01

I tried the towels on the germans many years ago , bought a dozen white cotton towels  and the dams just had a ball wadding them up and the pups after  5 or six days scooting into and under them  , made it impossible to use towels for me in the birthing box....I would go in a find   5 pups instead of 6 and it scared me to find a baby wound up in a towel ....I guess yuo could nail each towel down or use   velpro on the floor and sew velpro on the towels and make it work.....I have a washer for dogs only in my barn  so washing is not problem......

Waded up towels with pups inside the towel was the problem      newspaper always shreds or the pup can scoot its way out of it  now get so trapped....the moms sometimes dont realize the pup is trapped unless it screams.....and even then , some dams  just get use to puppies crying after a weeek or so......older pups can get loose but newborns scare me on anything that can wad up.....






 


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