fair stud fee? - Page 1

I'm wondering what a fair stud fee would be for an unproven SchH titled male with SG show rating? Also, I read about so many deals gone bad on this board, are the few pennies worth it for someone like me who is not in the business of breeding?

I am not a Sch. person but still don't understand what is an "unproven Sch titled"? I thought Sch was a way a dog is proven? I'm more than like totally misinformed, but am curious.

Regards,

Dawgs

I thought "unproven" was a dog that had never been bred before so you really wouldn't know for sure what kind of offspring he would produce? But I could be wrong....

When talking about unproven and breeding I normally think of progeny on the ground. 

allaboutthedawgs- I think you misunderstood her.  The dog is apparently titled but not a proven producer if I understood it correctly.  I don't know much about the show lines at all so I couldn't begin to tell what a fair stud fee price would be but if I had to guess I'm sure the dogs pedigree would have a lot to determine what the price would be, not just the title alone.  Also as it was discussed in a thread a long time ago it all depends on the demands of what you are looking for, where you are located in the states and what you are trying to achieve in your breeding.  One is only worth what one is willing to pay.  Some will pay more for what they want and/or convenience and others will elect to pass and move on to something else.

To me, it would be a combination of a few things. 

What is the pedigree?  Hip rating? Titles - what level and done how ?  Koer'd or not?  

Proven producer means different things to different people.  You need to decide what it means to you.

The dog is working lines with an SG show rating.

oh, working lines....ok well then what is the dogs name and or pedigree background?  Hip rating? I assume he's not Koered?  There's a lot of working line folks that may be able to help if I can't.  But I'll take a shot at it.

Unproven as I always interpreted it to be for most is a dog that has not produced a litter yet.  BUT as SKI's post it can mean different things but still along those lines to different folks.  Some will say a dog is unproven even if it has produced litters but none of the progeny has received any titles yet.  That also makes sense to interpret it that way to the folks who've been competing and breeding for a number of years but to me a dog's proven he can produce if he's actually sired/whelped  a litter.  I wouldn't so much zone in on the titles being the biggest factor as much as looking at both the sire and the dams pedigree to see if it in fact is a good match on paper.  If it is then I'd go the next step to see what the titles are in the entire scheme of things.

I don't even have the dog yet, but was asked about usng him for stud already. I need to figure out how to get him home from an airport that is 4 hours away (one way) and I don't drive. The one person that offered to pick him up wants to use him for stud in exchange. Guess there are too many variables to really know......

You guys will be the first to know when the eagle has landed

There is no such thing as a "fair" stud fee as the stud owner will ask whatever they think they can get, and customers will pay for how much they think the stud is worth.  The current "market value" of stud fees changes over time, and lately seems to just go up, similar to puppy prices. 

It also depends on your prospective customer base.  If you have a dog with desireable bloodlines and no other studs in the near vicinity, you might get people to pay whatever you ask (to a point).  On the other hand, if you've got some top studs kenneled near by, then you won't get much traffic to your door.

Only you can figure out if breeding is right for you.  Don't tell anyone you're doing it for "extra pennies" or you'll get yelled at.

Yvette