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by EKvonEarnhardt on 06 September 2007 - 18:09
Letting your own dogs bite you (sleeves, legs, body suits) does that make sense and if so WHY??????
by Jeff Oehlsen on 06 September 2007 - 18:09
Depends on the dog, but as a general rule it is better to get someone with good experience to help you out.
by Get A Real Dog on 06 September 2007 - 19:09
There is no problem in decoying for you own dog as long as it is done in prey.
by Jeff Oehlsen on 06 September 2007 - 21:09
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There is no problem in decoying for you own dog as long as it is done in prey.
So you just disregard the fact that most people are terrible decoys???
My other question; with most peoples inexperience you think they can keep a dog just in prey???
GREEN DOG = experienced decoy
GREEN DECOY = experienced dog

by 4pack on 06 September 2007 - 21:09
Well I'm sure GARD was in a hurry. He is at work. Since he does know what the hell he is doing, it may have slipped his mind to even add that part. Sometimes things go without saying.
"Morrons, please do not work your own dogs and if you do, don't be shocked when thet can't title!"
Happy now Jeff?

by sueincc on 06 September 2007 - 21:09
4Pack: We posted at the same time! It's obvious GARD knows what he's doing, but he's not like most of the yahoos running around agitating their own dogs.

by jletcher18 on 06 September 2007 - 21:09
you could write a book about the pros and cons of this subject.
there are a couple of thread about this already on here
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/73884.html#73900
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/30012.html#30016
john

by 4pack on 06 September 2007 - 21:09
I think most people are OK working/playing with their young pups 8 weeks -4 or 5 months but that isn't real "decoying" though either. When it comes to decoying, I suggest finding the best you can get and using them. People who sometimes "decoy" their own dogs, are usually decoys and know their shit. When you know decoys, you will see allot of them meeting up to work eachothers dogs. Most are from a one helper club and have no one to work their own dogs. They work what they can on their own and then find a friend/another decoy, to help with other areas they don't want to tap into themselves.

by jletcher18 on 06 September 2007 - 23:09
very well put 4pack,, thats how chris and i work
john
by Jeff Oehlsen on 06 September 2007 - 23:09
Quote: Unfortunately, there are a lot of decoys who don't even understand what drives a dog is working in let alone why it's good or bad, but I guess that's a different discussion
Nothing scarier than a decoy that thinks he can work a dog in "all prey" and then when you watch them, they are frontal with the dog, and you see the defense that they are clueless as to what is going on. Like "prey" is a switch you can turn on, to keep defense out of the equation. LOL
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