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ask this question without making a reflection on the dog or owner. There are some working line dogs that have much more curvature in their spine than my showline. But, people say it's the showlines that have banana backs. I think I may have the wrong idea of a banana back, then. I found a dog on a website that has one dog that really illustrates my question. But, I don't want to post that because it would really be rude to the breeder (who is very respected). Ideas?

Maybe your showline does not have this type of curature which to me is great. I have seen some working lines that have had a small curve to their backs like famous Lord out of East German working lines you can pull him up on the data base and see his body type. I guess it can surface in both show and work but to be honest it is almost the norm in show lines were it would be the exception in working lines. I do not care for the look especially when it is very arched.

Marlene

SG Lord Vom Glesisdreieck take a look is this what you are thinking of.

Marlene

No, Marlene, that's not quite what I meant. Can I pm you the dog I saw that really reminded me of it? I have no doubt this person is a well respected breeder and I'm just trying to understand what is the difference between show and wkg line. I just don't want to seem to be critical of a person't dog.

Ok, the example Pia gave on Yvettes conformation thread is a lot what I'm talking about. But what I don't understand is this: If that dog (Buster vom  can'tremembertherestof thename :) ) looks roached but isn't roached; how do I tell if the showlines that look roached are roached? What I mean is, how do you tell if it's the dog or the stack?

a roached back hurts to look at it..lol   you get alot close to being roached but seeing more and more.. alot of breeders sell them on here.

a slight roach (even in a working line dog) is what gives the dog a maximum reach when in full gait,,not running,,this makes the dog have the most reach with the least amount of effort,, very common in herding dog breeding,

i know i over siplified this, but was trying to make it understandable for all

john

a slight roach (even in a working line dog) is what gives the dog a maximum reach when in full gait,,not running,,this makes the dog have the most reach with the least amount of effort,, very common in herding dog breeding,

i know i over siplified this, but was trying to make it understandable for all

john

A  roach on a hi-line is normaly  mid to rear on the top line. This does not effect transmission of energy, The working dogs usually are roached forward which causes a stop of the thrust forward which judges call a nick at the withers. Working dogs with this get KK2 in most cases. Fair or not is your call.

I think she is getting rear angulation and roach mixed up?