O.K.Opinions please... - Page 3

I think that if you are a breeder,  and you know your stuff like you are supposed to, than you shouldn't have to ask a bunch of anonymous people what they think of a dog.    You should know yourself.

Ya but... I don't see anywhere that she is a breeder. Maybe she just wants a pet or another dog for company for the one she likes the looks of (whose picture did not show up). I think she mostly was asking about the color and what people think in general. Did I miss something, why does everyone think she is a breeder or looking for a dog to breed??

Well then my answer would be the same.  If it is for companion purpose, why the hell do you care what anonymous people think? 

I don't know for sure but I think she was just wondering what peoples opinions are on the color by asking this:

Is she just a washed out blk/tan or blk/silver???Opinions!!

That was the only question I read that she asked..... I don't see where she is a breeder and maybe she is new to the breed period. Maybe I am naive but I am going by the info given and question asked.

O.K. so every one knows I am trying to learn from my elders,Meaning the people that have been into the breed alittle longer then me.I am in the process of starting my breeding program but that is not for awhile yet. I need to finish the dogs I have first. I am however looking for a female. This one is just down the road from me and I just asked a question about her color. Yes if I was what was stated I should know but as I said I am still learning. Sorry if people are confused. I guess I will from now on keep my ?'s to myself. If they are going to cause people to get all bent out of shape.

I have had 2 litters of white shepherds awhile ago like 3 yrs.I don't think that makes me a breeder....Dose it...

Once agin sorry for the confusion........................Elizabeth

Kiserhoff I don't think I was confused... sometimes people skim posts and then just get off track of the question asked.

No need to apologize.  people were just giving you what you asked.  You even said please.

"I have had 2 litters of white shepherds awhile ago like 3 yrs.I don't think that makes me a breeder....Dose it.."

If you kill 2 people that makes you a killer.  If you have bred 2 litters, that would make you a breeder.

Kiserhoff,

Maybe all the people who come on wanting  "just add water and stir" instuctions on being a breeder makes me paranoid of these types of posts you have made. I guess what concerns me (not that you need to prove antything to me) is that you are looking down the road before you've stepped off the porch. If you are looking at dogs for future breedings before you have tended to the training of your present ones I think you may be missing a critical learning period.  You may miss many observations at each step of the path by looking far ahead. Does that make sense?

The concensus seems to be the dogs you have are not breedworthy but so what. They love you and will work with you and will be instrumental in your learning curve. I guess I'm saying it might be to your advantage to completely table the breeding thoughts and work these dogs, learn (which you obviously want to do) and the rest will follow naturally in time without pressuring it, if it's meant to be.

JMHO for what it's worth.

Dawgs 

Elizabeth - there is SO MUCH to learn. Its endless.  I have been researching online for many months and that is really nothing.   Many people on this board have been studying and researching and buying their own dogs for anywhere from 10-30 or more years, and even they say they are still learning.  You can never, ever learn enough.   Even after 30 years of breeding and research, one person's opinion can be vastly different from another's.  We all have our preferences as far as GSD type goes, whether we like German show lines, German working lines, American show lines, or a combination of both, what size and build we like in a dog, the temperament we prefer (hard or soft, or somewhere in between), drives, and even color.  And its good to always remember that color should never be the FIRST consideration.  The first and foremost you should be aware of is responsible breeding. You want your goal to be to better the breed - not just add more mediocre dogs to the world that have a good chance of ending up being euthanized in the local shelter.  A dog that is not worthy of being bred (in ANY one capacity) should not be bred.  That's the only simple part of it, as far as I'm concerned.  Everything else is incredibly complicated. The bloodlines and combinations of bloodlines is one of the most confusing components to this whole thing for me.  You get a dog, that according to his pedigree, should be rock stable and clear headed, yet you can sometimes get just the opposite.  The same can be true with type, color, size.  Nature throws lots of curve balls at you.  But.... you can at the very least be as informed as you possibly can before even considering starting a breeding program. Drink in all the information you can possibly gather, talk to as many good breeders as you can that will take a few minutes out of their extremely busy day to try to give some guidelines to a green beginner (this will be much easier said than done).  Go to as many gatherings such as working dog trials, dog shows and obedience competitions as you can.  You will undoubtably learn something from all of them, even if its only one small thing.  If your drive and passion are there for real,  it'll all come in time, as the above poster said.

Kiserhoff, don't worry about people on this board getting all bent out of shape....it just happens naturally here!!! Keep posting, and just let the silly stuff roll off your back...you'll get a lot of good advise, and the rest is kind of amusing. Good luck, jackie osborne