by yogidog on 09 April 2020 - 11:04
by ValK on 09 April 2020 - 12:04
most likely it was dog with pretty good bond to owner, instinct to guard own territory and yet to be killed natural urge to protect a master.
it's just a good specimen of good watchdog but doesn't mean dog been one, trained or even suitable for PPD role.
by Centurian on 09 April 2020 - 13:04
Yogi - without a doubt at leasssst $ 3000 . To give little more perspective on " Price " : In my region of the USA and other regions that I have come across , a showline puppy , again a puppy , is frequently sold for minumum $5000 . And ... these show line pups that I have just recently seen by people that came to me for training - they did not even have the pizzazz to do Schutzhund !! Yes , they would bite , bite a tug , like a golden retr. biting a frisbee. Now I am not putting down the puppy , my intention is not to compare GSs , but to emphasize and highlight : For a dog that will protect you and family , however one describes or caregorizes that protection and that type of dog , whether trained or natural capability ... just contemplate paying a prety penny for it ! I mean well over 10K or 15K . Also any professional breeder seelling of a these kinds of dogs ,or a a puppy with this bent , or any professional selling even a partially trained young adult dog with this proclivity who knows what they are doing will not sell you this kind of dog for a few thusand bucks. Expect to pay a lot of money for , thousaaaaaands for a dog like this , if you git a dog to fit the tasks and bill.
The other comment I make .. A lot of people had asked me for a dog like this in the past. What I have found , and I have found this to be true of people who have had GS in the past in their life : They have no idea what it takes whithin the dog for this , they have no idea the training that goes into this [ formal or informal ] . Many people want a dog and think just because - the dog will just take care of everything- again just because . Thy put out of mind , the personal role and responsibillity they must have , they must play , in having a dog like this. Now this is not directed at the OP - let me make that exceptionally clear. I don't know the OP . But I have had enough people come to me about this topic which lends me to say " be careful for what you wish for because you just might get what you want [ and more than you bargain for ] . I have had people more than once say to me either train my dog literally to protect me or " please get me a dog that will protect , NAME YOU PRICE". Buyer Beware . I know someone who 1.4 years ago got a Cane Corso ... Well , as I predicted I got a call for help . Dog was taken to OB school in the previous months . But now the owner/dog has quite an aggressive problem . So my point : you may pay a high monetary price for a dog that is asked for , but you may also pay another price also, one way or another too . Aside for the $ price you may pay , which will be substantial , consider other substantial prices you pay for a dog of this caliber , if you are a casual general reader reading this thread ... Cave Canum [ Latin ]!
by yogidog on 09 April 2020 - 14:04
by Centurian on 09 April 2020 - 15:04
Yogi , Yes , you are correct !! To add -if you don't know what you are doing or understand this avenue , and you take a dog with this bent and potential to protect , you will make a basket case out of the dog !! There is much about the dog that goes hand in hand with maturity . How can I shed some light on what Yogi stated : One aspect I will address that is related to maturity of the dog .
All puppies have to go through a Normal** Healthy socialization process and time period . Then ... with the onset of maturity , at a certain point in the maturation and in the teaching processe , do we elect to effect and affect the dog's suspicion level . You don't start , with a 7 , 10 , 12 , 20 week , 6 month etc . etc week puppy placing that repsonsibility onto the pup to be suspicious of everybody/human ! There is a certain time that is correct for a dog to change the susicion level and you have the experience and ability to recognize when the dog is mature enough and ready . There comes a certain time and place within the maturity process and the dog's teaching whereby we start to change this ' way of looking at people ' within the dog . To repeat - " increasing a dog's suspicion level " has to be based on and predicated on , as I wrote , a normal healthy intitial socialization process . There are also other features that go in line with maturity that Yogi rightly so points out. .
by NatureDragon on 11 April 2020 - 13:04
by ThatWasClose on 11 April 2020 - 20:04
by ThatWasClose on 11 April 2020 - 20:04
by emoryg on 11 April 2020 - 20:04
by ThatWasClose on 12 April 2020 - 16:04
Too bad I did not post sooner.
A new dog that already understands that horses & cows do in fact exist, & that they are not big play toys, would be a tremendous bonus. Saves on the learning curve & from (possibly) being kicked. Bet most of ya'll don't know a cow can kick sideways too.
I have plenty of Catahoula's & Cur's out at the ranch to work cows. (I keep my retirees.) It will not be the job of the new dog to work cows, nor to bother other dogs doing their job.
They will have a pretty cush life as a house dog. Running around the yard playing chase with the house Cur & little fluffy dog. I even have a dog fort. Mainly so fluffy dog can be at face height for play battles. Bummer being the little guy always being held down from above. It is a great place to hang out in the shade and keep watch over their kingdom. The new dog will get to go everywhere with me; especially when I seek out the ever so elusive & coveted rolls of toilet paper.