Conservative Christian caught in compromising position. - Page 8

You are ignorant Paul, sorry.  I understand the Constitution just fine and it was/is NOT based on the bible.  It was/is based on individual freedom and equality.  As long is nobody is restricting your rights to live as you choose, your rights, in kind, will not be restricted.  That is the basic principle behind the laws of this country.  You are not special, you are equal.  Your opinions are fine, as long as they don't reach beyond the nose of another, without consent.
 

Did paul g just use the "were you there" argument? That's just one step up from simple animals and babies that think something no longer exists when you put it behind a screen.

paul did the universe and yr parents, grandparents. etc exist before you were.born??


WERE YOU THERE???

    Nah. 

You had better re-read your constitution. We have the right to pursue happiness.

Oh, I just had to come back to this, it's just too, uh, funny?  You actually think that we're only allowed to pursue happiness, but not a right to attain it?  Seriously?  Nobody said you're guaranteed happiness, but the pursuit of it is the right to it!  Wow.

The state of "happy" is subjective. It is an ideal goal that may or may never be achieved. You don't have a right to expect that you will achieve this ideal. Only the right that you can try. If you succeed, then it is your subjective nature that has made it possible.

 

I wholeheartedly agree beetree.  It's when people try to make their happiness objective that there's a problem!

I am surprised we agree. There must be something one of us is not understanding, lol

I think it is because you appear to me to make an automatic progression to the idea that the subjective state of "happy" can be a right. How can an individual "state of being" based in the subjective, be a universal "right"? There is no way to verify such an attainment, we only have your word on it, should you get yourself there.

Therefore, in order for that right to be "inalienable" we are limited to the "pursuit" of the state of "happy", as the specifics of each individual claim to an attained state of "happy" can never be verified. Something inalienable must be verifiable, true or not?

"GSD Admin   So if every one involved is willing and happy,  Is it right?  If a 10 year old is willing to have sex with a willing adult that is okey with you. Just when does "happy" make it right?  What defines morality to you? What is truth?"

 

Paul,

Except, having sex with a child is a crime. 2 consenting adults is not a crime and if you think it is I suggest you stay out of other peoples bedrooms.

The constitution written on biblical principals, oh you mean like the killing of millions of innocent native Americans, the enslaving of blacks and the way our forefathers thought of woman, wow Paul you sure just pissed off a lot of people. I don't hold much faith in our founding fathers, they were pretty racist, sexist and killers.

 

"Why is the government involved in marriage anyway? It is in all reality is none of their business. It is their attempt to control the people and try to impose their idea morality on us."

Government is in our business - really?  Sounds like you want to be in peoples business as it appears you care what others do in their bedrooms.

 

 

I don't have time to argue with people brought aboard because someone wanted to stir the shit.

I posted this to show millions of Christians are hypocrites and very very very few are the real deal. Someone else took it as well I will let them speak for themselves and they decided I had a hidden agenda but I think if they step back and take a look at what they have done here they will see the truth and if not so be it.

I have looked at some of the forefathers behind the constitution. seem like a lot of secular peeps in there.

standards of morality get re-defined with every generation.

what do you think the early christians in jesus times would think of current christian morality, lets start with george bush jnr, tele-evangelists.......lmao.

standards of morality get re-defined with every generation

 

I'd enjoy hearing the rationale behind this.

 

I don't hold much faith in our founding fathers, they were pretty racist, sexist and killers.

 

Nothing's changed.