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by yellowrose of Texas on 08 October 2014 - 20:10
Linda: I apologize if you thought I was positioning you...I did not read your post. I was reading Reggie as I just read a few every now and then ususally only ones I think need to have a bit of fact injected
I ready your posts on the genetic threads as I know what your expertise is.
I have no need to point to anyone here on this database who does not believe as I do...After all , GSD TRAVELS and I are friends and she spent many a night in my home...SO why would I cast any stones at you ....SHE does not belive as I do,,we both know and knew that...She ask me while she was here to not discuss religion with her and we did not...SHe knows how I live...she stayed her for 4 weeks total.
Just do not put words in my mouth either...I post when I see the need to inject a bit of truth as the BIBLE tells it..
THERE are plenty of others casting the words around and I usually read only a few as I have encouraged Shtal and Gouda both manty times and Red Sable can attest as I told her only a month or so ago...Do not post too much to the off topic..IT is too heavy and it only gets people riled up...BUT my post is to anyone who wants to read it..I do not pick any one person out...never have and never will...I agreed with what Reggie said 100 percent..THE fact that I have the meat of the word and some have the milk is far greater than I know...I have no clue who any one is not do I know to what extent they have BIBLE knowledge...I do know who you are..
BY your posts and the expertise in genetics.
I present the encouragement and that is what all of us should be doing...Encouragement to live better each day whether you believe as I do or Believe as you want...THE end result is to better each day we live and do not let evil words or evil deeds overcast the life you could have .
You have a talent I do not..I hated math or dispised it I should say, and you have a gift of explaining Chromosones and x plus y equals w, x y z plus aaaaa...have no clue and never would know even if I tried..
HAve a good day
but I remain
IHS
Yellowrose

by rtdmmcintyre on 08 October 2014 - 21:10
Linda I cannot ever speak on behalf of anyone else. But I say this. I personally feel everyone's viewpoint is important. It is who they are. Regardless of what it is based on it is their opinion and their feelings. In order to ever have any kind of true dialogued a person has to be able to understand why the other person feels the way they do. They don't have to agree with it but if they can understand why then they can reply in an intelligent way. I have lots of friends with whom I know I will never agree on matters that are very important to both of us. But we get along famously because we both understand where the other one is coming from. I look at people on this forum as each one as a potential friend. I don't have a dislike for anyone here and would be excited to meet and sit and have a meal with anyone here. If I regarded everyone here as a sinner and as swine how would anyone ever be willing or even care what I have to say?
Linda please understand that I usually sit and try to put thought into my posts so as to not be offensive. Because I do care how I come across. The other night on the Ebola thread I didn't as much and probably was seen as being a little offensive to GSD admin. I was wrong for that and sent him/her an apology. Religion, politics, family, etc. are things that people have strong feelings about. When they comment sometimes they just say what is on their mind.and not thinking about how it will come across. And sometimes I know I'm guilty of taking offense because of not being face to face so not being able to see facial expressions, tone of voice or body language. And come to find out the whole time it just came across wrong and wasn't what they meant.
I think Gouda is probably a real nice guy and well intended. Greatly misunderstood and has a bit of spiritual growth to go. But I still have to credit him. I would never call that man a coward. His zeal is real. But I think his method is where he needs growth. And if that is the worst I can say about the guy.
I usually try to give everyone the benefit of their own intentions. As in I believe everyone here is trying to be genuine with a few exceptions of those who are just stirring for fun.
Linda anytime you speak to me I promise I will do my best to respond with respect. And I apologize for the long post. I hate long posts. But I wanted to speak to you from the heart.
Now YR with her statement about pearls before swine if you will remember back a few posts I said something about using biblical terms that wouldn't be understood the way it was meant. That is one of them. The whole comment wasn't to refer to people as swine but rather of showing respect to spiritual things. Which as you notice isn't managed real well here. So I think it is a bit out of context. I took it as her talking to me and not to you. I could be wrong but that is the way I understood it.

by yellowrose of Texas on 08 October 2014 - 21:10
Reggie"
You are correct that I should have prefaced my post using REGGIE: I determined that he would know what I meant and that is basically what he spent his post before me stating..I knew by what he posted he knew the exact meaning as does, RS< RUGER < and others I converse with.. We do have a lot of BIBLE believing and studiers of the word here.. I , could If I so wanted, take a big offense to the nasty language and the nasty words used on OFF TOPIC by one person here who has use terrible words about a CHRISTIAN AND PUT UP pictures that were very disgraceful to the One I believe in...BUT I never opened my mouth...WOuld not have served one purpose..I am more educated in my Faith to know he or she is not gonna change my faith one bit..SO the shoe could go on my foot and I could call out many who have said very unbecoming things on many posts and spent three pAges doing it.
IT goes both ways, and like Reggie said...discussing Religion , politics on a forum or with friends and family can lead to a tearing apart of the seed that could really bond them together...IT is a decision each of us has to make according to the calling of our HEARTS>
END OF this discussion
Oli is a christian and he is not here to even lend a VOICE BUT i REMEMBER HIS trip to the Holy Land aND HE POSTed PICTURES of it and talked about it...SO the fact that we are doing something he just hates I do not believe.
Freedom is valuable but discussion is also valuable and I think we have some great men and women here who ought to be able to have a discussion without making things difficult and uncomfortable..
I hear a loud mouth puppy and he is yelling he needs attention.. He has learned to tell me when he needs to go out.so no delay here.
YR

by rtdmmcintyre on 08 October 2014 - 21:10
If any of us ever get to meet in person and you want to ask me what I believe and why. I will be more then glad to tell you as little or as much as you want to hear. To me time and place are everything. And to those here who like to preach continually I say this.. The bible says there is a time for everything under the sun. Now if there is an appropriate time for everything then it would also be reasonable to say that there is also an inappropriate time. And how you word things makes the difference on how any message you have to say is received. Please put some honest thought in to that.

by Hundmutter on 08 October 2014 - 22:10
YR Thank you for the apology, but despite your explanation I still do not understand the relevence of your post about Matthew's
Gospel, so my query as to who you were thinking of / aiming at by quoting those verses remains unanswered (I did/do realise it
was not [ONLY] me.) It is a little odd if you simply thought of the Matthew passage and wanted to print it out on here without
it's contents being directed at something or someone. I accept that the timing was off and the pearls before swine post was in
answer to what Reggie wrote, and not to my question; but would you like to try to answer my post now ? After all, it was
sincerely queried. I wasn't trying to speak FOR anyone else either, but in commenting on your post I was only too aware of
the fact that I would be representing a line of reasoning expressed many times over by many other posters ... and to which any
sort of solid answer does not ever seem to be given, by any of the regular god-fearing posters. There is never any acknowledge-
ment that we folk who do not take the Christian viewpoint are constantly (to our irritation) lumped together as if we are all permanently
siding with - or actually participating in - lying, cheating, bullying, stealing, adulterous, child-molesting, rude, ignorant, 'ungodly'
behaviour by whoever is in the pulpit at the time, selling the end of the world or eternal damnation. You might choose to believe
in those events; that does not mean that they still apply anyway to everyone who does not share your faith. You may believe they
do - but that does not include telling us that they WILL apply to us. Do you see the difference ? And it would be a complete cop-out
to say, in this case, that they were "God's Words", not your own; because as I said it would be very odd just to recite them at that point,
and you wrote the last sentence.
Reggie, of course I agree that posts should be conducted politely and arguments put without using insults. And as a general rule I,
too, try to be inoffensive in style. But as you yourself admit it is easy to get it wrong occasionally, we are only human. I do get testy
with the likes of Shtal , ML, RS, LF ... sometimes ! But usually only in response to one of them showing lack of respect as a fellow
poster to me. I know some posters come on all guns blazing about how stupid religion is etc, but we are not all like that, all of the time;
so we do not deserve to be lumped together as if we were. I wish everyone was like you but they are not.
Okay I'll climb down from my soapbox !
Can we have a "group hug", now ?

by yellowrose of Texas on 08 October 2014 - 23:10
HundsM : Those are the quote directly from the BIBLE>.I am cooking supper...liver and onions and mashed potatoes so they may burn..I will go back and give you the exact scripture...Matt 25 is the chapter and it tells and quoted as I posted it in the last part of the chapter..I don't have the exact number of verse and in front of me at this time...will explain after suppper.
Lastly, the BIBLE is exactly written from front to back and it is not wise to take some verses out of context, but the parables are all told everywhere...and are always self explanatory...if you study the BIBLE>.MY quote to post the Matt 25 post was about someone elses, not you, remarks or posts about the end time either by a video or mentioning some things not true.
Will explain have to go re read the time slot that I posted in...IT waS NOT POSTED to anyone person..THE BIBLE is read and quoted for anyone or everyone...not just pointing to one person...
Every parable and every chapter in BIBLE has dealing with what GOD wants in our LIVES>.whether we do it or not..WE all have sinned and fallen short of what GOD wants from us...ME < thee, thou , you , them , they and all humans alive..THERE is no not one perfect person..
I notice BOB MCKNown put up the BIBLE verses saying GOD created man in HIS IMAGE>>>we are of GOD but we do not have his perfection
OK liver burning
YR
CHOW

by 1Ruger1 on 08 October 2014 - 23:10
Gouda, your reply to me is very dishonest. I have never run away from talking to you about any topic. I rather enjoy all and any topics,,If you are referring to the "Calvinism" topic~ I like that best!! ;) but you are unteachable as is Rs where certain doctrine is concerned. If I thought you both were sincerely interested I would love nothing better. I posted my personal email not long ago!! Let's chat :)))

by yellowrose of Texas on 09 October 2014 - 01:10
Linda: My post was in response to what GSD Admin said in rebut to some above that saying that the end was coming...not when just that , He posted saying that no one knows so why are you trying to convince...paraphrasing what he meant...THEN someone said and I believe it was you , replied to two others about GSD travels mentioning Matt 25...that is the chapter about ready and waiting..which someone above you I believe, said something about READY and Waiting...may have been RS>.
THat is the very meaning of Chapter 25..I immediately know how to paraphrase that chapter as have for 50 years studied the books of Matthew , Mark , Luke and John...because of many reasons they are the begining gospels that show that Jesus of Nazareth was the Kingly Messiah of Jewish Prophecy.
Matthew is a special book as it shows the story of the Kingship of Christ...so immediately I felt necessary to show that no one knows when Christ is returning and to gsd admin , that none of us say we know..the BIBLE gives us instruction ...and that is the parable I explained along with mentioning the other two parables in same chapter..about the THE TALENTS, AND THE sheep and Goats.
THE last parable I quoted exActly what the last verse said and it is not my sentence..IT is from the BIBLE>
I will not continue to explain who the sheep and the goats are...but it is an allegory to show In Christian tradition, the sheep are often thought of as those who receive Christ, and the goats are those who reject Christ.
I did not make it up..IT is the reason we study and we know and we wait and are to be ready ..THE BIBLE just tells the Jews in this case, that he is fixing to die on the cross and these parables tell why...those who believe and those who do not...
THAT was my purpose to posting the Matt 25 explanation..It is not right to not finish the final part in verse 46 .I also said for all to go read it.
it is all there..IT was not directed to anyone person..iI do not even know where in what thread GSD travels refered to Matt 25...at least she knew it was there...I only explained what the chapter means.
YR
YR

by Hundmutter on 09 October 2014 - 06:10
So I give up - I'll let readers decide for themselves whether that answered my post / point / question.
But can you please tell me one thing, it requires a straight Yes or No:
Do you, as a Christian individual, understand the concept that you [whether in straight posts or Bible quotes] may
cause distress in 'the rest of us' mortals, when we are constantly referred to as if part of one amorphous mass of wicked
people, just because we do not share your version of Faith ?
How were your liver & onions ? Good, not burnt, I hope.

by 1Ruger1 on 09 October 2014 - 08:10
"But can you please tell me one thing, it requires a straight Yes or No:
Do you, as a Christian individual, understand the concept that you [whether in straight posts or Bible quotes] may
cause distress in 'the rest of us' mortals, when we are constantly referred to as if part of one amorphous mass of wicked
people, just because we do not share your version of Faith ?",,,,,,,,,,,,,,
"the fact that I would be representing a line of reasoning expressed many times over by many other posters ... and to which any
sort of solid answer does not ever seem to be given, by any of the regular god-fearing posters. There is never any acknowledge-
ment that we folk who do not take the Christian viewpoint are constantly (to our irritation) lumped together as if we are all permanently
siding with - or actually participating in - lying, cheating, bullying, stealing, adulterous, child-molesting, rude, ignorant, 'ungodly'
behaviour by whoever is in the pulpit at the time, selling the end of the world or eternal damnation. You might choose to believe
in those events; that does not mean that they still apply anyway to everyone who does not share your faith. You may believe they
do - but that does not include telling us that they WILL apply to us. Do you see the difference ? And it would be a complete cop-out
to say, in this case, that they were "God's Words", not your own; because as I said it would be very odd just to recite them at that point,",,,,,,,,,,,,,
Hund~~ though it might not appear so, I do try to understand what it is you are asking. I desire to give an answer to all questions if only to say I honestly don't have an answer. Please "cut to the quick" and tell me in as few words as possible what you seek an answer to. For whatever reason I find your quotes above hard to understand. I am not sure what you are seeking an answer to.
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