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by beetree on 21 April 2013 - 22:04

Well, doesn't he meet the definition of enemy combatant? I mean, the death and destruction part was done in America. His brother was investigated per the request of the Russians. We just seem to be such a nice country to live in that even though he might have said he hates and wants jihad against America, we knew he didn't actually do anything yet. So, the FBI just let the whole matter drop. That's what happened, didn't it?

And now they think maybe he was planning death and destruction to America, so that makes him an enemy combatant. Just taking a shot at this question. Been a long day! 

GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 21 April 2013 - 22:04

No, he is an American and not a citizen of a country we are at war with. His bother is not him.The only time they can use the no Miranda rights clause is if there is imminent danger and they are telling everyone there is no danger. The ACLU is chomping at the bit. They want to give this kid a CIA/Guantanamo style interrogation. Me and you will have to disagree on this one Bee.

Curious where the constitutional purists are on this matter.

by Paul Garrison on 21 April 2013 - 22:04

I agree GSD As bad as I hate it we need to give him a tax payer attorney, but he is a citizen and he should get his rights. If he is found guilty he needs to be hung by the neck until dead in down town Boston.

by beetree on 21 April 2013 - 22:04

I know he isn't his brother, but he is guilty by association is how some would see it. The interrogators want to know if there are more conspirators, really, that could be seen as imminent danger, and that's something I want to know as well. He will be questioned if or when he recovers, one way or the other, and I don't think his one hour without a lawyer will make a difference. I am sure he'll just plead the fifth, this is a very smart kid you know. It isn't like we are dealing with someone who doesn't speak English.

Who said anything about waterboarding... that is what I think of when you say Guantanamo style.... hmm. No way. This is too much in the public eye. They have one hour and the whole world is watching.

GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 21 April 2013 - 23:04

Paul,

The only part I disagree with is the public hanging but a proper sentence of death would be fine with me.

Bee,

We have laws and rules of law we can't just throw them out the window because some lawmakers want to.  I feel the patriot act is unconstitutional.  No matter how smart he is we shouldn't throw our system of justice out the window. It doesn't set a good example in my opinion.

by beetree on 21 April 2013 - 23:04

Really? I don't think death at all!  He is going to have mitigating circumstances. Prison for life. He's too young. His frontal lobe has not been completely developed! There is not the sophistication of decision making to predict consequences of future events. He was used by his older brother. Sad, sad, really. And it is ironic, you are so concerned about disregarding the Patriot Act which is law,  detested maybe but still law, and then are so ready to have him dead. Hmm. We do think different.

GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 21 April 2013 - 23:04

He will get the death penalty no doubt in my mind.

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 22 April 2013 - 00:04

I think the US attorney spelled it out pretty clearly.

GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 22 April 2013 - 00:04

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/20/justice/massachusetts-bombers-accomplices

"Now that the suspect is in custody, the last thing we should want is for him to remain silent. It is absolutely vital the suspect be questioned for intelligence gathering purposes," the senators said in a statement. "Under the law of war we can hold this suspect as a potential enemy combatant not entitled to Miranda warnings or the appointment of counsel."

Alan Dershowitz, a prominent defense attorney and Harvard law professor, scoffed at the statement.

"There's no way an American citizen committing a domestic crime in the city of Boston could be tried as an enemy combatant," he told CNN's Piers Morgan. "That shows absolute ignorance of the law."


Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 22 April 2013 - 00:04

WTF, does Dershowitz know...LMAO

I defer to the US Atty.





 


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