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by beetree on 12 December 2011 - 14:12

That is a lie Gouda, you are doing this for yourself. You judged my relationship with God as inferior to yours. All for your vain glory, that silly crown.

gouda

by gouda on 12 December 2011 - 15:12

Hi BeeTree

THESS. 2:19,20

For what is our hope,or joy,or crown of rejoicing?Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming? For ye are our glory and joy.

My game of life does not end in death. It really begins. My hope,my joy,my crown of rejocing will not be how many home runs I hit but how many souls I have won to Christ. How is your record Beetree.

 gouda

GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 12 December 2011 - 16:12

And therin lies the evil of your doctrine.

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 12 December 2011 - 16:12

That's his purpose Beetree,

 (many souls I have won to Christ. How is your record Beetree.)


He's counting coup, increasing his heavenly status, frequent flyer miles, brownie points, souls hanging over his mantle.
He is self serving indeed.
This is the way of the Jehovah's Witness that come knocking at you door with their own version of the bible.


He got out slippery little devil.

Moons.




Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 12 December 2011 - 17:12

RS,,,
Beetree's right, if I thought by giving my interpretation of those scriptures we would gain ground I would have been happy to give my opinion..The title of this thread does not suggest that this thread is about Bible interpretation, but rather judgment..

 I am not going to participate in creating another scripture posting thread because it's pointless. People come here for converstation, not commentary.. Scripture was never intended to take the place of having a personal, sincere, and mutual satisfying conversation (that doesn't necessarily mean without conflict or disagreement )...There is of course a time and a place to post scripture and I am not against doing that when it's appropriate...

GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 12 December 2011 - 17:12

"Scripture was never intended to take the place of having a personal, sincere, and mutual satisfying conversation (that doesn't necessarily mean without conflict or disagreement )"

Ruger Right on!


Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 12 December 2011 - 18:12

Gouda, I am only in a hurry to get to the point!!..lol..We can discuss the point as long as you like..I work today and the rest of the week so my time will be limited..Please read carfully what I have posted and answer my questions one at a time..I appreciate your post and your willingness to explain in your own words...


Gouda said...


"The only reason that I picked this subject is becaues Im accused of doing it,and want people here to understand the proper meaning of these scriptures. "

   What people are you wanting to explain the meaning of the scriptures to??...
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Gouda said,...

  
"all I have ever done is shown people certain things  thats leads to eternal damnation"

    Why are you wanting to show people the things that lead to damnation?..What are you trying to accomplish ?....
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Gouda said,

 
"all liars murderes fornicators drunkerds drug abusers,and what have you,will be throwen in the lake of fire at the judgement.Im also not judging the sinner when I tell them by accepting Christ,and repenting of their evil ways,they also can inherit eternal life.  "

    
How do you suggest sinners go about excepting Christ..How does one do that??
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Gouda said, 


"Do you really think that I enjoy hearing the word of God mocked here every day? 

     Why do you continue to post scripture after people have told you that they are not interested in what you or the Bible says?? What are you hoping to accomplish ?? Do you think that you can talk them into it??..
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Gouda said,


"Im here to help people like GSDtravels,moons, Beetree,ect,that I believe need the Grace commpassion and the knowledge of someone who died for them.  "

     You have told them..You have posted the scriptures..What more do you have to say??..They do not accept what the scripture says and they do not care. What do you hope to accomplish by pressing the issues.?..
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Gouda said,..


So the only reason Im here is... IM FOLLOWING THE COMMANDMENTS OF CHRIST.  

     What commandment of Christ are you following by continuing to post scripture for people who are not interested ??...Show me anywhere were scripture teaches or where you have seen Christ or the Apostles continue to preach when people are not interested??
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Gouda said,

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After a person is born again it starts to build up in them,and you just have to let it out."

    Ok, this is really the point ..This is about you..
You have a joy, a peace, and an excitement for the faith you possess and for the truth found in the scriptures..I understand that and so does every other Christian on the forum. But you can not force that on others ...You can not make people accept what they will not ( can not) believe..Please hear me Gouda, I know that initially you mean well, but when people don't accept you get offended. When you get offended you feel you need to condemn...God's word is meant for believers, not unbelievers..They will not accept the message of Christ because it is foolishness to them..As it would be to you had Christ not revealed His word to you through faith..That is why scripture teaches that faith is a gift from God, so that no man may boast..You are not going to reason, convince, persuade, or scare people to believe the Bible..You are wasting your time and not fulfilling any commandment of scripture in continuing..You are only frustrating yourself and others..
 
Deanna...


  

 





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Red Sable

by Red Sable on 12 December 2011 - 18:12

"You have a joy, a peace, and an excitement for the faith you possess and for the truth found in the scriptures..I understand that and so does every other Christian on the forum. But you can not force that on others ...You can not make people accept what they will not ( can not) believe..Please hear me Gouda, I know that initially you mean well, but when people don't accept you get offended. When you get offended you feel you need to condemn...God's word is meant for believers, not unbelievers..They will not accept the message of Christ because it is foolishness to them..As it would be to you had Christ not revealed His word to you through faith..That is why scripture teaches that faith is a gift from God, so that no man may boast..You are not going to reason, convince, persuade, or scare people to believe the Bible..You are wasting your time and not fulfilling any commandment of scripture in continuing..You are only frustrating yourself and others.."

This is very true, everyone  here has heard the word, so there is no point in pounding it in.    It is obviously doing no good at all.  Your most powerful weapon is prayer.
I do enjoy these discussions ( and I stress discussions) where we (believers) learn something from it though.  Unfortunately, they are hard to find amongst all the bickering.


 

GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 12 December 2011 - 18:12

Then quit preaching and start discussing. These are not discussions, these are telling people they are not good enough because they believe different. Judgement.

GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 12 December 2011 - 18:12

Answer some of the questions Travels posted and then a discussion can happen. Until you quit damning everyone who believes different there is no discussion.





 


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