bible is metaphor or fact?? - Page 4

RS  Oh no he wasn't. SSDD.

 

PS   Who is this 'Rich' being referred to ?

Hundmutter here is my version, S tares DD

rtdmmcintyre,,,,Nice post !! 

That is about as unreal as your new avatar, Shtal.

RS i get this crap straight from the bible. 

 

so if adam did not eat the apple then the earth would not know death - some implications for population explosion.

 

now if we are to follow shtal's logic that the NT depends on the OT being true then why don't we go all the way and follow the Torah??

it was not gods chosen people that wrote/assembled the bible, it was a commitee of former pagans at Nicaea.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

 

 

here is some lies and weird things jesus said or did;

Making an incorrect prediction about the world ending in that generation
- Stating that Christians can drink strong poisons and handle snakes
- His doctrine of heaven and hell contradicts Revelation
- Said the Kingdom would not come by inspection
- Thought that Jonas could live in a whale for 3 days
- Was confused about his unity with God: Re Lazarus, "Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me."  He asks for this cup to pass to someone else, and complains that his father has abandoned him. "My Father is greater than I." John 14:28 "I can of mine own self do nothing." , "Father, save me from this hour, but for this cause came I unto this hour."
- Told followers that God would provide for them in day to day matters. "Give us this day our daily bread"
- Told people that prayers would be answered
- Confused people about the difficulty of the Christian burden "For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."
- Contradicted himself : "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."
- Hid his mission in the gospels and waited for Paul to explain it
- Told his disciples to buy swords
- Was inconsistent on adultery John 4:18, John 8:7
- Thought that only Jews would be saved
- Curses fig tree for having no fruit, when it was not the fruiting season
- Recommended that people not enter litigation, but gives an example where the person litigated.
- Jesus said, "Be not afraid of them that kill the body", and then hid from people who were after him
- Knew nothing about real life, or sexual relations, or warfare
 

- Knew nothing about real life, or sexual relations, or warfare

@Mountain LIon

Now there you have it! The biggest freudian slip of all! LMAO. 

the universe according to the literal, innerrant, infallible word of the all knowing god;

 

LOL Bee,

So true, not only the biggest freudian slip, but also a miserable freudian slip.  

Making an incorrect prediction about the world ending in that generation

 

Sorry, wrong again.  I didn't read the whole list, as this one was wrong, so I didn't bother, but I will address this one, as it is important.  Let me quote the vs, then explain it, truthfully.

² And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

³ And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

⁴ And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

⁵ For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.  (HAPPENING NOW!!)

⁶ And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

⁷ For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

⁸ All these are the beginning of sorrows. (EARTH QUAKES HAVE INCREASED, EBOLA, HAPPENING NOW!)

⁹ Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. (SURE IS HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE EAST ALTHOUGH, NO ONE IS CLICKING ON GOUDA'S LINKS, MAYBE IT'S HIGH TIME YOU DID. ?? COMING SOON TO AMERICA TOO. )

¹⁰ And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. (CERTAINLY HAPPING NOW)

¹¹ And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

¹² And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. (  YUP)

¹³ But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

¹⁴ And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. ( YUP, BACK THEN IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE, BUT THESE DAYS WITH ALL OUR TECHNOLOGY, IT'S A PIECE OF CAKE, AND A REALITY!)

¹⁵ When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)  (THAT WILL BE THE ANTI CHRIST, STILL TO HAPPEN) 

¹⁶ Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

¹⁷ Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

²² And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. (NUCLEAR WAR, THE ONLY THING CAPABLE OF DESTROYING ALL OF MANKIND.  THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE IN JESUS'S DAY, BUT IT SURE IS NOW)

²³ Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

²⁴ For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

³⁴ Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

³⁵ Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

 

OK Vk, Jesus is saying, those that see these signs,  that generation will not pass away until all has been fulfilled, NOT the generation he was talking to, but the generation that sees all these signs.

 

US.

You and me kid.